Accord mods advice
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From: NY
Easy on the flames guys.
Id go with an AEM over a generic Ebay one for a few reasons.
1. Many people have the AEM intake and are happy with them. No one has reported any real fitment issues, and you cant say the same about an unknown Joe Shmoe intake from Ebay. Its an unknown, so unless you know someone who has one installed, and have seen it, you have no guarantees aboout fit, finish, or reliability. If it doesn't fit or something is wrong with it, the pain involved to get your money back will be pretty significant.
2. The gains from a name brand intake like an AEM, are known and documented, not so with a generic. What is pictured on an Ebay auction usually varies from the product you will actually receive. Those Ebay auctions for gains of over 20hp for simple resistors that trick your car into thinking it is still warming up, and hasnt reached full operating temps are the perfect example of why you cant always trust something on Ebay.
3. Sometimes the lower price paid upfront leads to more costs later, not always making things the bargain they first appeared. A perfect example of this is the OBX vs Comptech V6 headers. I've seen/read the horror stories of OBX headers cracking a their cheaply done weld points, and they dont stand bytheir work. Never even heard of that happening with a Comptech, but if it did, they stand behind their products. I cant count how many times either I or others have said to themselves, I just should have spent a little more by getting ______ in the first place; I ended up spending more in the end. If it ever comes time to sell that mod, you'l get more for it, just like you spent more for it compared to a generic.
4. When I put alot of time in my car, I want it to look good also. Performance is important to me, but so are looks. Thats the same for 99% of the people out there. If not we'd all be riding around on light weight steelies with no add on body kits, rims, stereo, etc. I want to look at my car, and get a smile on my face. Putting in some high quality name brand parts does just that depending on what it is.
Id go with an AEM over a generic Ebay one for a few reasons.
1. Many people have the AEM intake and are happy with them. No one has reported any real fitment issues, and you cant say the same about an unknown Joe Shmoe intake from Ebay. Its an unknown, so unless you know someone who has one installed, and have seen it, you have no guarantees aboout fit, finish, or reliability. If it doesn't fit or something is wrong with it, the pain involved to get your money back will be pretty significant.
2. The gains from a name brand intake like an AEM, are known and documented, not so with a generic. What is pictured on an Ebay auction usually varies from the product you will actually receive. Those Ebay auctions for gains of over 20hp for simple resistors that trick your car into thinking it is still warming up, and hasnt reached full operating temps are the perfect example of why you cant always trust something on Ebay.
3. Sometimes the lower price paid upfront leads to more costs later, not always making things the bargain they first appeared. A perfect example of this is the OBX vs Comptech V6 headers. I've seen/read the horror stories of OBX headers cracking a their cheaply done weld points, and they dont stand bytheir work. Never even heard of that happening with a Comptech, but if it did, they stand behind their products. I cant count how many times either I or others have said to themselves, I just should have spent a little more by getting ______ in the first place; I ended up spending more in the end. If it ever comes time to sell that mod, you'l get more for it, just like you spent more for it compared to a generic.
4. When I put alot of time in my car, I want it to look good also. Performance is important to me, but so are looks. Thats the same for 99% of the people out there. If not we'd all be riding around on light weight steelies with no add on body kits, rims, stereo, etc. I want to look at my car, and get a smile on my face. Putting in some high quality name brand parts does just that depending on what it is.
Just Hazin'
Joined: Oct 2003
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From: CA
Originally Posted by ZiviCase10287
oh yeah HAZE, have you ever worked on an engine before? by saying this: "None of your costs include labor, you must be a really skilled mechanic " thats saying you know sh*t about cars. i have my own turbo project on my 91 civic si right now.. i've gotten all the parts and I've put them on the car.. no help in person, only LEARNED by friends, posts, and reading a lot. i've tooken apart an engine, have you? i took out the pistons, rods, clutch, flywheel, cam.. i have put all those back in the engine too and it looked fine so i dunno why working on an engine is so hard that i need a real mechanic to do? i'm 17 and in highschool and your telling me you haven't read about how to work on an engine? no wonder you said the AEM v2 is the sh*t, haha... how much do they cost? $200-250 or more? oh well with even 200 you can get a exhaust mani, turbo, bov... right there... all you need left is piping made, tapped oil pan, oil lines, boost gauge, FMU or the better way is S-AFC or V-AFC and guess what you have boost. like i said you spent 1/3 the price on that intake then on my whole turbo kit.
If you can engine swap, turbo, and replace your internals, props to you. That concludes you know more then me on engine work. You deserve some bragging rights, but that doesnt speak for the 80% of us other users on HAN who have DAILY DRIVERS that dont want to mess with internals ( or at least do it ourselves), because WE ACTUALLY PAID FOR OUR CAR AND ALL THE SH&* WE PUT IN IT and understand the value and importance and risks of f%cking it up. We cant just blow the engine or mess something up, go to daddy and have him buy us another car, Welcome to the real world 17 year old Jonny.
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RacinMasonC
Joined: Jan 2003
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From: Minnesota
LOL you think my parents paid for either of my cars??? thats funny sh*t, i paid for EVERYTHING on my fu*king cars.. if my parents would give me money it would be a 10 second car by now... i would NOT have gotten a homemadeturbo kit.. i would of gotten something else. you are fu*king stupid for saying that to me. i have 2 cars motherfu*ker: 1991 civic Si paid $4,000 by me, 1992 accord lx from my friend $1300 LOAN. i pay for every god damn thing, so shut your fu*king mouth... i pay for damages, insurance, car payment, gas, anything that goes on my car. sorry i don't have a 02 accord and payed probably 17k for it when you could of gotten an older accord and made it faster but you decided to spend too much on a fu*king accord in the first place.
also i'd much rather be more proud of myself if I do a turbo or if I do an engine swap... something big cuz it'll say that i accomplished something on my car... ****ing i did the mini-me swap on my civic.. i know every god damn thing about my civic.. you don't know how much fu*king time i've spent with the car... sorry you just slap on an intake in 10-15 mins and call it a day, i'd rather do something and make it fast and say you did it all. also if my parents gave a shit about my cars they would bring them to a shop instead of myself doing it. they have no part in my cars so i dunno why the fu*k you said that you piece of shit. you dont' fu*king know me b*tch. get the fu*k off HAN if every 17 year old that knows more than you cuz they try more things, they risk messing up their car.. we learn from it, you don't. that just childish. watch what you say HAZE
also i'd much rather be more proud of myself if I do a turbo or if I do an engine swap... something big cuz it'll say that i accomplished something on my car... ****ing i did the mini-me swap on my civic.. i know every god damn thing about my civic.. you don't know how much fu*king time i've spent with the car... sorry you just slap on an intake in 10-15 mins and call it a day, i'd rather do something and make it fast and say you did it all. also if my parents gave a shit about my cars they would bring them to a shop instead of myself doing it. they have no part in my cars so i dunno why the fu*k you said that you piece of shit. you dont' fu*king know me b*tch. get the fu*k off HAN if every 17 year old that knows more than you cuz they try more things, they risk messing up their car.. we learn from it, you don't. that just childish. watch what you say HAZE
Just Hazin'
Joined: Oct 2003
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From: CA
Originally Posted by ZiviCase10287
LOL you think my parents paid for either of my cars??? thats funny sh*t, i paid for EVERYTHING on my fu*king cars.. if my parents would give me money it would be a 10 second car by now... i would NOT have gotten a homemadeturbo kit.. i would of gotten something else. you are fu*king stupid for saying that to me. i have 2 cars motherfu*ker: 1991 civic Si paid $4,000 by me, 1992 accord lx from my friend $1300 LOAN. i pay for every god damn thing, so shut your fu*king mouth... i pay for damages, insurance, car payment, gas, anything that goes on my car. sorry i don't have a 02 accord and payed probably 17k for it when you could of gotten an older accord and made it faster but you decided to spend too much on a fu*king accord in the first place.
also i'd much rather be more proud of myself if I do a turbo or if I do an engine swap... something big cuz it'll say that i accomplished something on my car... ****ing i did the mini-me swap on my civic.. i know every god damn thing about my civic.. you don't know how much fu*king time i've spent with the car... sorry you just slap on an intake in 10-15 mins and call it a day, i'd rather do something and make it fast and say you did it all. also if my parents gave a shit about my cars they would bring them to a shop instead of myself doing it. they have no part in my cars so i dunno why the fu*k you said that you piece of shit. you dont' fu*king know me b*tch. get the fu*k off HAN if every 17 year old that knows more than you cuz they try more things, they risk messing up their car.. we learn from it, you don't. that just childish. watch what you say HAZE
also i'd much rather be more proud of myself if I do a turbo or if I do an engine swap... something big cuz it'll say that i accomplished something on my car... ****ing i did the mini-me swap on my civic.. i know every god damn thing about my civic.. you don't know how much fu*king time i've spent with the car... sorry you just slap on an intake in 10-15 mins and call it a day, i'd rather do something and make it fast and say you did it all. also if my parents gave a shit about my cars they would bring them to a shop instead of myself doing it. they have no part in my cars so i dunno why the fu*k you said that you piece of shit. you dont' fu*king know me b*tch. get the fu*k off HAN if every 17 year old that knows more than you cuz they try more things, they risk messing up their car.. we learn from it, you don't. that just childish. watch what you say HAZE
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bboy Wesley West
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From: six-five-o
i have an ebay CAI ($50) but im a DIY type of guy, so i dont need any secure bolt on locations, i made my own hole (which is hella ghetto). The only thing u cannot go cheap on is the filter because your engine can only take so much ammount of dirt, Apexi or K&N is the way to go. For exhaust and headers, you cannot go cheap either because those high temp. applications must be test proven and have high quality control.
Universal muffler do not work, they are just hella loud, magnaflow was dyno proven and is better over a custom pipe.
I also bought Grounding wires off ebay and have worked pretty well, same thing with my AGX's, H&R springs, strut bars and alarm.
As for smog, i really dont know what to do when it comes time because with just a CAI, it should pass, exhaust would need to convert back to stock. Luckily my car still has good compression. w00t
Universal muffler do not work, they are just hella loud, magnaflow was dyno proven and is better over a custom pipe.
I also bought Grounding wires off ebay and have worked pretty well, same thing with my AGX's, H&R springs, strut bars and alarm.
As for smog, i really dont know what to do when it comes time because with just a CAI, it should pass, exhaust would need to convert back to stock. Luckily my car still has good compression. w00t
Just Hazin'
Joined: Oct 2003
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From: CA
Originally Posted by ZiviCase10287
your a little fu*king bi*ch you know? you forgot to say something about my parents paying for everything on my car.. why the hell did you say that when you know jack sh*t about me.
RacinMasonC
Joined: Jan 2003
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From: Minnesota
judged? how did i judge others? oh so now i should "Grow up" when you say personal shit to people you don't know.. thats real adult like... what is there for me to grow up? seems like to me and probably to other people by saying that shit you said, you should "Grow up" and keep personal shit outta the convo. you don't fu*king know what some people would do to you if you said that to them... you find the right mother fu*ker to fu*k with and you will get yourself into a whole lotta mess. again.. dont' talk about personal shit when you know jack shit about them, Watch what the fu*k you say.
Just Hazin'
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From: CA
Originally Posted by /^Blackmagik^\
children children.. it's a web forum.. e-thug 1 isn't gonna meet up with e-thug 2 and beat the piss out of one another so just shut up.. can a mod close this shit.. it has strayed into a pissing contest