my stock civic comes with 14 inch rims.. to get some good performance tires.. would i need 15 inch rims at least?
what size tires are best for performance ?

 

good performance tires come in 14', but as for tires sizes it also goes on what size rims you want and/or got

 

well i wouldnt mind putting my first set of tires on my stock wheels... i dont want to buy anything that wont really help performance much... so i was thinking to get good rubbers on those stock wheels... 185/65/14... and then when those first set of rubbers get bald.. ill get new wheels with rubbers.. anyways what good rubbers can i get for 14 inchers? and how wide should they be? im going for performance..
thanks for any help

 

nitto makes a good for a decent price

 

i was looking in this honda tuning mag i have and theres some tire ads..
yeah anyways i was first interested in nitto Nt-555 extreme performance tires but they dont come anything less than 16s.. the NT-460 Premium comes in 14 inches.. anyone know anything bout these and how well they perform?... also who else makes good tires..? pirelli? yokohama? toyo?

:thumbup:

 

You could get a set of Azenis in 195/60/14's

 

kuhmo make anything decent in that size?

 

Nittos are known to be shittos. They are one of the worse tires (sans Nitto 555R (drag radial)) you can get. If you get 15s get 205/50x15" as opposed to the next size from 185/65x14" to 195/55x15". You will get a little wider contact patch, speedo and odometer doesn't change much.

For summer driving I recommend:

• Falken Azenis
• Yokohama ES100
• Kumho MX
• Kumho 712
• Toyo T1S (although I don't think they come in 15s)
• BFG KDs (if you have money to spend)
• Sumoito HTRZ II
• and if you want hardcore - Yokohama A032Rs

 

i agree nitto = the sucks!

Toyo T1S do come in 15" and they do make 195/55/15

they aren't cheap but they are super light!

comparing kumho ecast supra 712 in the same 195/55/15 size
the kumhos are 19.30 lbs each while the Toyo T1-S are only 16.50lbs

so you save 2.8lbs in rotational weight at each corner times 4 = 11.2lbs. pretty significant if you ask me.

The Toyo T1-S also come in 205/50/15 at 18.50lbs and $106 each.




of course the kumhos are $60 each and the toyos are $102 each :rick:

 

Damn... I mean... seriously. Are you guys retarted? What data is your NITTO bashing based on? I've been through 3 sets of them. 450's, 555's and 555R extreme drags. ALL of them have worn extremely well. They have a high-silicone content that makes them extremely quiet in hard cornering, a stiff-as-bricks sidewall design that makes your crappy suspension give more than the tire (except for the 555R Extreme Drags which have recently been updated), and a staggered tread design that makes them very comfortable on the highway. They maintain excelent traction in ALL conditions and surfaces, though I've never pushed them off-road (I'm sure that's not one of your concerns). They have BY FAR been the best street-performance tire I've ever used. When I finally get my performance car running again, you can bet they'll be the brand that gets put back on it. I pulled a 1.7 60' time on 555R's and a 1.8 on 450's! That speaks for itself.

I've also had Toyo's Yoko's Pirelli's Kumho's and GoodYear, none of those hold a candle to a NITTO. Kumho's don't wear as long, and they're noisy. At least they're cheap. The Pirelli P7000's don't grip even as good as a Nitto 450 (the touring radial) and cost twice as much, the Toyo's slipped belts causing them to be a balancing nightmare, and the Goodyears didn't grip past 10k miles even though they were supposed to be a 40k mile tire, they got progressively shittier with age.

Please tell me what your idea of a performance tire is based on, and then remember that the guy starting this thread is trying to put rubber on stock 14"s. Performance tires are easier to find in larger-than-14" sizes anyway. A 65-series sidewall is SHIT for performance. Don't blame the tire if it sucks.