Yeah I don't want to get caught up in this argument. I like all of the car except the exhuast, but that's just my personal taste. To each his own :thumbup:

 

why is "exhaust shop special" dual exhaust for $200 better than "exhaust shop special" single exhaust for $150...

and lets compare my N-1 just for the hell of it (not being an asshole)
A'PEX exhaust systems are among the best in the automotive aftermarket industry. Since the company's founding 9 years ago, A'PEX has helped revolutionize the industry with innovative concepts that focus on both form and function. By using feedback data from our racecars, A'PEX exhaust systems are engineered to perform. A'PEX engineers concentrate on performance and sound characteristics, not just aesthetics and tubing diameters. From raw materials to the finished product, each component is manufactured in-house to meet the highest standards. Every vehicle application is extensively researched and tested before final designs are approved for production.

In the N-1 Endurance Race, efficiency is everything. With that in mind, the N-1 exhaust systems were born to satisfy the want for quick throttle response and to effectively handle the rigorous demands of high-horsepower engines. The pipes were engineered with the aid of sophisticated CAD systems to develop the straightest possible lines and least number of bends. The straight-through canister projects from the car at an angle, which helps smooth the exhaust flow. The canister is built from SUS 304 stainless steel and features a 115mm tip with aggressive style. The Super Silencer is included on selected models, which can reduce noise levels by up to 7 decibels. The N-1 Series Mufflers are available for both NA (naturally aspirated) and turbo-charged cars

granted this is propaganda from the apex'i website..but i think its reasonable to assume more R&D goes into an apex piece than something banged out at an muffler shop... and i have had it for over two years, live basicly in the ocean, and the system shows ZERO signs of rust associated with lots of lower end exhaust systems.. i paid 380 for it back when i got it

im just saying id rather pay a lot once and KNOW its something quality.. VS something im not sure of...

 

N1 sucks too loud for me, ive driven with no muffler for too long. h:

Youre right tho, a lot of that is marketing BS, but its true, you pay for quality and you get quality. Pretty much any mandrel bent straight thru (non baffled, non louvered) design will do the trick as far as performance. What you're paying for with Apexi, as you mentioned, is stainless, rust proof, long term quality. I'm thinking either Apexi WS, or building my own magnaflow.:thumbup:

 

Yes, I agree with you both, oc_civic and white_n_slow. Quality is quality. Alumalite piping is standard tubing in most aftermarket exhaust shops. Will not rust. The problem with stainless is that it does not tranfer heat. During avation mechanics school, welded a 7 inch piece of stainless for 2 inches. Instructor had me grap the other end with my bair hand. Warm but not hot. The only benefit is that it does not hold heat. Cool running exhaust. As for a duel pipe, going from 2.25 to duel 2.25, reduced pressure with reduced turbulance.

 

Thanks. A/c compressor is gone. Have not pulled all the plumbing yet.

 

Looks alright but only a few 4 bangers should have a dual exhaust, one that come to mind is the S2000, sorry that's my opinion.

 

Your exhaust are gay and useless, I don't care what you say. You'd probably get more HP from a tune-up than you would from those lame ass pipes.

 

The car looks very nice...except for the exhaust, but I don't even need to comment on that since you've been getting flamed enough as it is. Other than that, its nice

 

Call it flaming but I mean no disrespect, I'm just giving you my honest opinion. If you like the exhaust for it's looks then just say you do, who cares what we think.

 

Its nice :thumbup: why dont u paint the license plate part?