Thoughts about Tornado Device?
I don't know about other cars. I had a Nissan Pulsar at the time, and I always checked gas mileage. I saw no improvement with it. I actually had to modify the thing for it to fit into the breather. Maybe on larger engines it works better, but I'll never buy another one. You'd be better off with the "Electric Supercharger"
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i dont think i'd spend 70 bucks on one, but i know quite a few v8 musclecar guy (old smart guys, 45+ years old) & they've got it in all their cars. they swear by that thing. however, these are ford & chevy v8's, which arent exactly "efficient"
Originally posted by b18cya
i dont think i'd spend 70 bucks on one, but i know quite a few v8 musclecar guy (old smart guys, 45+ years old) & they've got it in all their cars. they swear by that thing. however, these are ford & chevy v8's, which arent exactly "efficient"
i dont think i'd spend 70 bucks on one, but i know quite a few v8 musclecar guy (old smart guys, 45+ years old) & they've got it in all their cars. they swear by that thing. however, these are ford & chevy v8's, which arent exactly "efficient"
Originally posted by AI32
OK, first of all, if you don't know what your talking about, don't say anything. My Father bought the Air Tornado. He sen't it back. Heres the reasons. Like the ad promised, he did feel a noticable increase in power (He installed it in a ford expedition v8). However, unlike the ad claimed, he actually LOST mpg. So thats why he sent it back. Now to the amature physicists, please desist in putting out false information m'kay? Yes, it WILL have an effect on airflow, regardless of its restrictvness. Organization of air molecules (adding a pattern to the stream to increase airflow) has been tryed before, and if my memory serves is often used in more specialized "one off" applications (race cars, and the like). however, its just not cost effective for auto manufacturers to put these in every car (gains in horsepower, or mpg are no where near what the manufacturers would have to pay to install them in thousands of vehicles). I hope this helps you DarkInfluence.
OK, first of all, if you don't know what your talking about, don't say anything. My Father bought the Air Tornado. He sen't it back. Heres the reasons. Like the ad promised, he did feel a noticable increase in power (He installed it in a ford expedition v8). However, unlike the ad claimed, he actually LOST mpg. So thats why he sent it back. Now to the amature physicists, please desist in putting out false information m'kay? Yes, it WILL have an effect on airflow, regardless of its restrictvness. Organization of air molecules (adding a pattern to the stream to increase airflow) has been tryed before, and if my memory serves is often used in more specialized "one off" applications (race cars, and the like). however, its just not cost effective for auto manufacturers to put these in every car (gains in horsepower, or mpg are no where near what the manufacturers would have to pay to install them in thousands of vehicles). I hope this helps you DarkInfluence.
i'm sorry and what makes you the expert? even if you have a degree in physics that doesn't make you an expert. now I have a friend who works for JPL(and he has for the past 15years) and he had told me that from physics point of view it may increase the power a very slightly (not enough to feel). this is all in a perfect environment. The reason is because if this thing is able to produce a swirl affect then it can accelerate the air speed.
similar to what nascar velocity stacks do, but in a passenger car it's not going to do jack.
and how does your dad know it increased power? did you dyno it before and after? if he didn't then you're speculating just as we all are.
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Originally posted by DakarM
i'm sorry and what makes you the expert? even if you have a degree in physics that doesn't make you an expert. now I have a friend who works for JPL(and he has for the past 15years) and he had told me that from physics point of view it may increase the power a very slightly (not enough to feel). this is all in a perfect environment. The reason is because if this thing is able to produce a swirl affect then it can accelerate the air speed.
similar to what nascar velocity stacks do, but in a passenger car it's not going to do jack.
and how does your dad know it increased power? did you dyno it before and after? if he didn't then you're speculating just as we all are.
i'm sorry and what makes you the expert? even if you have a degree in physics that doesn't make you an expert. now I have a friend who works for JPL(and he has for the past 15years) and he had told me that from physics point of view it may increase the power a very slightly (not enough to feel). this is all in a perfect environment. The reason is because if this thing is able to produce a swirl affect then it can accelerate the air speed.
similar to what nascar velocity stacks do, but in a passenger car it's not going to do jack.
and how does your dad know it increased power? did you dyno it before and after? if he didn't then you're speculating just as we all are.
that is all.
Originally posted by AI32
The only reason I said not to say anything if you didn't know, was because people were basically ridiculing the guy for asking a question, and not providing any information to the contrary.
that is all.
The only reason I said not to say anything if you didn't know, was because people were basically ridiculing the guy for asking a question, and not providing any information to the contrary.
that is all.
with this part I agree.
btw simple blind test in the real scientific community is much more complex then that.
my friend in Caltech (Ph.D candidate) says in order for the results to be accepted you have to have at least 10 data points in any experiment.
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Originally Posted by WiLL
...I really wanna get out and shoot people.
bottom line...it isnt worth 70 bucks for your Honda.
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Originally posted by asiandoood
bottom line...it isnt worth 70 bucks for your Honda.
bottom line...it isnt worth 70 bucks for your Honda.
Yeah probably not worth 70bucks for any car.
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Originally posted by TeHJuSTiN
Just look at the physics of the Tornado. You can't add horse power and gain mpg at the same time, it's almost impossible.
Just look at the physics of the Tornado. You can't add horse power and gain mpg at the same time, it's almost impossible.
oh wait, no we didnt. not only are cars 50x more powerful than the first gasoline engines they are also 100x more efficient in many cases.
sounds to me, sir, like you were napping during physics.


