What do you think of this car?
Hate to go against the forum, but I'd personally get the mini as much as I like the 99-00 Si in Electron blue. Power wise and suspension wise the Cooper S owns the SI in stock form.
Also illusioncivic commented on how if you turboed or SC'ed the SI which comes in N/A form that it will last longer or will be better in the long run. I personally dont have any experience with the Mini's but logic brings me to the conclusion that the SI will NOT last longer in the long run. For example, most engines that come SC'ed or Turbo'ed from factory generally tend to be better reinforced, built ALOT stronger, and are able to handle more power than the N/A. Take the eclipses and supras as an example. No one in their right mind would try to boost a GS when you can easily get a GST... as well as a trying to boost a regular Supra. On another note, Honda engines were never meant to be boosted as they blow up under low boost--i.e. try boosting a stock B16A with upgraded fuel management. You wont get very far with boost safely. You could probably boost up to 10-12psi safely. Even then its pushing the limits of that engine, and also it wont last that long. (And yes, some people have pushed there engines up to 15psi and more in stock form, but I considered those engines "FREAKS" and most of them wont be reliable daily drivers!)
I hope I made some sense as I am going on very little sleep at the moment.
Besides that technical shiet... I think the Cooper S is more of a "babe" magnet than the SI (as there are one too many ricers with the SI). =)
Also illusioncivic commented on how if you turboed or SC'ed the SI which comes in N/A form that it will last longer or will be better in the long run. I personally dont have any experience with the Mini's but logic brings me to the conclusion that the SI will NOT last longer in the long run. For example, most engines that come SC'ed or Turbo'ed from factory generally tend to be better reinforced, built ALOT stronger, and are able to handle more power than the N/A. Take the eclipses and supras as an example. No one in their right mind would try to boost a GS when you can easily get a GST... as well as a trying to boost a regular Supra. On another note, Honda engines were never meant to be boosted as they blow up under low boost--i.e. try boosting a stock B16A with upgraded fuel management. You wont get very far with boost safely. You could probably boost up to 10-12psi safely. Even then its pushing the limits of that engine, and also it wont last that long. (And yes, some people have pushed there engines up to 15psi and more in stock form, but I considered those engines "FREAKS" and most of them wont be reliable daily drivers!)
I hope I made some sense as I am going on very little sleep at the moment.
Besides that technical shiet... I think the Cooper S is more of a "babe" magnet than the SI (as there are one too many ricers with the SI). =)
stock for stock, Cooper S>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Si
It would take both a fair amount of suspension modification and engine modification to make the Si on par w/ the Cooper in terms of performance.
It would take both a fair amount of suspension modification and engine modification to make the Si on par w/ the Cooper in terms of performance.
IF were talking EP3 then i say get the Cooper....I am really not to big of a fan of the new si. If your talking an EM1 then i say get the si. The cooper will be faster but this is a honda-site and im sure most are going to recommend getting either of the si's, new or old.
Originally Posted by theguy387
wait you can drop a B-series engine in an old school mini
damn that's crazy I did not know that
damn that's crazy I did not know that
My opinion is the SI is going to sound better because its DOHC and the mini cooper is sohc supercharged. And the only real way you can sport out your mini is with John Cooper Works stuff which is 5K for 37 more hp and 22 more lb/ft torque - via bigger Eaton supercharger/exhaust/ high flow cylinder heads - but do you like supercharger whine? And the SI weighs 200 lbs more. SI's are more upgradeable but coopers are trendy. Just stuff to think about.
Originally Posted by Monsoon
Really? More relyable than a car made by BMW?
The mini has a 50k warranty and covers more.
The honda has a 36k warranty and only covers 3 things...?
I know where I am, I see people talking about the Neon and Focus in here all the time.... And I am buying a new car soon and wanted to see if anyone knows about the Cooper Vs. the Civic HB Si?
The mini has a 50k warranty and covers more.
The honda has a 36k warranty and only covers 3 things...?
I know where I am, I see people talking about the Neon and Focus in here all the time.... And I am buying a new car soon and wanted to see if anyone knows about the Cooper Vs. the Civic HB Si?
Originally Posted by Bakeoff
Do some searching on google. There are a lot of them. I've seen everything from a ZC to a b16 in em...
Originally Posted by raiden571
coopers are ugly, looks like it could be a normal car until someone todecided to ass ram them during production to give it an ugly ass design, it looks liek a small mini-van


