Notices

Lowering question...who' done this?

Thread Tools
 
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 03:55 PM
  #31  
CivicSiRacer's Avatar
CivicSiRacer
Honorary Moderator Alumni
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 8,735
Likes: 0
From: Someplace with cones=AUTO
Default

Originally Posted by metalman
well, with the adjustable kybs, i could just keep it pretty stiff, and not have problems, right? also, correct me if im wrong, but if i had a larger offset, wouldnt i have more problems since the tire would stick out farther? the offset is measured from the middle of the center of mass of the rim, to the edge, right? if i flare the fenders, a larger offset would screw things up more, wouldn't it? this is my understanding.
You will still have problems even if you stiffen the shocks. Plus the ride will be horribly rough too.

You definitely need to do a search on the net. All your simple questions can be answered with Google.

Higher number (ie: 45) is a higher offset than a lower offset (ie: 35). Higher offset will pull the wheels more under the fenders, but lower offset will push the wheels further out from the center of the car (aka low rider look).
__________________
Sponsored by: KAM Racing Sports, Falken Tires, Progress Technology, Brady's High Performance, Taggart Performance Engineering, Rotora Brakes
Autocross is: 90% driver, 5% car, & 5% CRAZY MOJO!
Autocross Help Page
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 03:56 PM
  #32  
CivicSiRacer's Avatar
CivicSiRacer
Honorary Moderator Alumni
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 8,735
Likes: 0
From: Someplace with cones=AUTO
Default

Originally Posted by dawrenn
Whats the right offset for a 99 Civic coupe? I have Si wheels.
Why don't you read the whole thread. I answered your question already.
__________________
Sponsored by: KAM Racing Sports, Falken Tires, Progress Technology, Brady's High Performance, Taggart Performance Engineering, Rotora Brakes
Autocross is: 90% driver, 5% car, & 5% CRAZY MOJO!
Autocross Help Page
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 04:19 PM
  #33  
dawrenn's Avatar
dawrenn
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,522
Likes: 0
From: Arlington, Virginia
Default

Originally Posted by CivicSiRacer
Why don't you read the whole thread. I answered your question already.
This is my tire size: P 185/65R15 Is this the wrong size? Will I have rubbing issues? I am going to be lowering my car 2.25 inches. Am I going to need a camber kit? This is what someone said about getting an alignment:If i were you i would definately recommend a camber kit. That is a pretty substantial drop and it will affect your camber. I got a front and rear camber kit for mine and i only dropped it about 1.8 inches or so. You could go without it but it will go thru tires fairly quickly and i think it is better to just get the camber kit and do it right the first time rather then replacing tires often due to bad camber. Then I said this: I heard if I get an alignment I will be fine.

Then he said this:

2+ inchs will cause havoc on your camber. I know it did on mine with less drop then that. The alignment wont fix your camber. It will fix Caster and Toe but the camber will still be negative and you wheels will be tilted in noticeably proceeding to wear out the insides of the tires prematurely

Am I going to need a camber kit or not?
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 05:00 PM
  #34  
asiandoood's Avatar
asiandoood
sancho on the sizzide!
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 27,129
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by dawrenn
Whats the right offset for a 99 Civic coupe? I have Si wheels.


Si wheels are made for your car :slap: ...you dont need to worry about having the wrong offset on factory wheels :squint:


Honda offsets are usually +40-+42
__________________
[ASIANDOOOD.COM] [INSPIRE USA] [FACEBOOK] [ENDLESS 8]
F/S: JDM EG9 Parts - PM me for info
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 05:09 PM
  #35  
dawrenn's Avatar
dawrenn
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,522
Likes: 0
From: Arlington, Virginia
Default

Originally Posted by darth asiandoood
Si wheels are made for your car :slap: ...you dont need to worry about having the wrong offset on factory wheels :squint:


Honda offsets are usually +40-+42
I thought the offset had to do with the size of the tire?
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 07:57 PM
  #36  
CivicSiRacer's Avatar
CivicSiRacer
Honorary Moderator Alumni
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 8,735
Likes: 0
From: Someplace with cones=AUTO
Default

Originally Posted by dawrenn
I thought the offset had to do with the size of the tire?
Seriously. All your questions about tires can be found at http://www.tirerack.com Most of these questions you ask are so easy to find and readily available to help you.
__________________
Sponsored by: KAM Racing Sports, Falken Tires, Progress Technology, Brady's High Performance, Taggart Performance Engineering, Rotora Brakes
Autocross is: 90% driver, 5% car, & 5% CRAZY MOJO!
Autocross Help Page
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:02 PM
  #37  
CivicSiRacer's Avatar
CivicSiRacer
Honorary Moderator Alumni
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 8,735
Likes: 0
From: Someplace with cones=AUTO
Default

Originally Posted by dawrenn
This is my tire size: P 185/65R15 Is this the wrong size? Will I have rubbing issues? I am going to be lowering my car 2.25 inches. Am I going to need a camber kit? This is what someone said about getting an alignment:If i were you i would definately recommend a camber kit. That is a pretty substantial drop and it will affect your camber. I got a front and rear camber kit for mine and i only dropped it about 1.8 inches or so. You could go without it but it will go thru tires fairly quickly and i think it is better to just get the camber kit and do it right the first time rather then replacing tires often due to bad camber. Then I said this: I heard if I get an alignment I will be fine.

Then he said this:

2+ inchs will cause havoc on your camber. I know it did on mine with less drop then that. The alignment wont fix your camber. It will fix Caster and Toe but the camber will still be negative and you wheels will be tilted in noticeably proceeding to wear out the insides of the tires prematurely

Am I going to need a camber kit or not?
First of all yes that is the wrong tire size for your car. Stock is 195/55x15" but you can also use 205/50x15" without any ill effects.

Getting an alignment on a Honda Civic you can only adjust toe not caster. With a camber kit you can adjust camber. But with a 2" drop I'd say you'll be fine without a camber kit. Anything more than a 2" drop and it's recommended to get one.

I'm dropped about 2.25" and I dialed in MORE negative camber since I autocross alot, but I also have 0 toe front and rear and my tire wear issues are nonexistent.
__________________
Sponsored by: KAM Racing Sports, Falken Tires, Progress Technology, Brady's High Performance, Taggart Performance Engineering, Rotora Brakes
Autocross is: 90% driver, 5% car, & 5% CRAZY MOJO!
Autocross Help Page
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:12 PM
  #38  
dawrenn's Avatar
dawrenn
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,522
Likes: 0
From: Arlington, Virginia
Default

Originally Posted by CivicSiRacer
First of all yes that is the wrong tire size for your car. Stock is 195/55x15" but you can also use 205/50x15" without any ill effects.

Getting an alignment on a Honda Civic you can only adjust toe not caster. With a camber kit you can adjust camber. But with a 2" drop I'd say you'll be fine without a camber kit. Anything more than a 2" drop and it's recommended to get one.

I'm dropped about 2.25" and I dialed in MORE negative camber since I autocross alot, but I also have 0 toe front and rear and my tire wear issues are nonexistent.
What will the wrong tire size effect? What is caster? I will be dropped 2.25" in the front and 2" in the rear. All I am going to be using the car for is daily driving. How did you get 0 toe in the front and rear?
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 09:18 PM
  #39  
alphaxxn's Avatar
alphaxxn
4500rpm hesitation
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 4,374
Likes: 0
From: Hesperia
Default

Originally Posted by dawrenn
What will the wrong tire size effect? What is caster? I will be dropped 2.25" in the front and 2" in the rear. All I am going to be using the car for is daily driving. How did you get 0 toe in the front and rear?
This refers to the angle of the steering axis in relation to an imaginary vertical line through the center of the wheel when viewed from the side
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 09:33 PM
  #40  
dawrenn's Avatar
dawrenn
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,522
Likes: 0
From: Arlington, Virginia
Default

Originally Posted by alphaxxn
This refers to the angle of the steering axis in relation to an imaginary vertical line through the center of the wheel when viewed from the side
Thanks for the info.



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:04 AM.