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Old 11-19-2003, 09:15 AM
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2k Civic Si, will soon have I/H/E and high flow cat. i'm gonna be running a 4-1 long tube header so i'm also gonna get adjustable cam gears and cams to run a nice overlap and take advantage of the scavenging effect. after the header goes in, is it better to get an ECU chip or a V-afc to pull every last drop of power from the car? thanks!

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Old 11-19-2003, 09:45 AM
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hondata > either of those h:
Old 11-19-2003, 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Snoopy
hondata > either of those
Old 11-19-2003, 12:08 PM
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chips NORMALY effect ignition... vafc does not.. vafc is mostly for changing cam cross over and fuel curve.. if i had the choice well i did.. and i went with a vafc..

IMHO hondata (as suggested) is GROSS OVERKILL for your setup
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can the cam x-over point be changed via a chip or only by the V-afc? thanks!

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Old 11-19-2003, 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by 2kSi
can the cam x-over point be changed via a chip or only by the V-afc? thanks!

Eric

thats a good question...i guess a chip COULD do it.. but more than likely not
Old 11-19-2003, 03:21 PM
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Yes, Hondata can control EVERYTHING!

You don't need it though. I don't even know why you'd need a VAFC with your setup. :dunno:

Hondata owns all... nuff said.
Old 11-20-2003, 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by 2kSi
can the cam x-over point be changed via a chip or only by the V-afc? thanks!

Eric
yes a chip will change the vtec x-over but it will be set. you cant change it without a vtec controller.
Old 11-20-2003, 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by oc_civic
chips NORMALY effect ignition... vafc does not.. vafc is mostly for changing cam cross over and fuel curve.. if i had the choice well i did.. and i went with a vafc..

IMHO hondata (as suggested) is GROSS OVERKILL for your setup
I agree with this post.

A "chip" will control fuel/ignition maps, vtec x-over, redline, enable/disable sensors per your request, full-throttle launch, boost, all sorts of nifty stuff.

Here is how I feel about the AFC's "You can add fuel but not spark." I think it's pretty self explanatory.

For a 00 si, you are looking at getting an OBD1 P28 ecu and a conversion harness.

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Old 11-21-2003, 03:19 AM
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the chip can be programed to do what you need but you cant tune it on the fly like a VAFC.



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