Originally Posted by
sqkev
that's alot of money spent on dieting/working out
i'd rather buy $100 worth of steaks every week

That's a small price to pay if you are healthier, and live longer for your family.
Originally Posted by
Nightshade
Yeah well...uhhh....I decided to ditch MaxOT again. Just wasn't fulfilling my needs when I left the gym after a workout. I felt as though I hadn't worked out at all hardly.
So I am back to my own training methods for a while and so far it seems to be working fine for me

Sounds like you weren't lifting hard enough.
Originally Posted by
Nightshade
I take in enough proteins in my daily diet to get my body to do what it needs as far as gains right now.
I have mixed feelings about those because as was pointed out kidney stones can be a side effect of raw protein intake. I may include it in a light amount somewhere down the road but gainers such as creatine or power fuel or whatever will never be part of my intake.
Kidney stones are more a side effect of creatine intake without proper hydration, not protein intake.
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