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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
Your original post seemed to really trivialize the fact Atta me three times with Iraq. But whatever.
How many times do you think covert CIA agents or paid moles met Atta? 3? More?
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by qtiger
How many times do you think covert CIA agents or paid moles met Atta? 3? More?
I am not sure they did. Did they? And if they did your point is?
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
I am not sure they did. Did they? And if they did your point is?
Clearly the CIA supported the terrorists by meeting them. Let's invade Langley.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by qtiger
Clearly the CIA supported the terrorists by meeting them. Let's invade Langley.
You have made your point...I think you fail to see how rediculous it really is. If the CIA met with terrorists it is on a whole different level than if Iraq met with them. You fail to see how obvious those two are different...and while we do not know the exact nature of the meetings, it does not take a highly intelligent person to figure out what topics were most likely on the agenda.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
You have made your point...I think you fail to see how rediculous it really is. If the CIA met with terrorists it is on a whole different level than if Iraq met with them. You fail to see how obvious those two are different...and while we do not know the exact nature of the meetings, it does not take a highly intelligent person to figure out what topics were most likely on the agenda.
We did meet with them. Remember the Afghan Russian war? We've always met with other "groups" that have mutual enemies. Ronald Reagan, himeself, called OBL a heroic freedom fighter.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by sxecrow
We did meet with them. Remember the Afghan Russian war? We've always met with other "groups" that have mutual enemies. Ronald Reagan, himeself, called OBL a heroic freedom fighter.
Right...we met with them before they became a terrorist organization. Funny how things change. We once fought wars against our biggest ally as well. Just like people countries change as well.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
You have made your point...I think you fail to see how rediculous it really is. If the CIA met with terrorists it is on a whole different level than if Iraq met with them. You fail to see how obvious those two are different...and while we do not know the exact nature of the meetings, it does not take a highly intelligent person to figure out what topics were most likely on the agenda.
Yes, but information that wouldn't fly in a court of law shouldn't be used to explain US actions. Makes us look like we ran off all half-cocked (which we did) and now we're making up for it half-assed (which we are).


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Right...we met with them before they became a terrorist organization. Funny how things change. We once fought wars against our biggest ally as well. Just like people countries change as well.
They were still a terrorist organization, the difference is we weren't the objects of the terrorism. Which is really the dividing line for "good" terrorists and "bad" terrorists in classic American thinking.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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They were still a terrorist organization, the difference is we weren't the objects of the terrorism. Which is really the dividing line for "good" terrorists and "bad" terrorists in classic American thinking.
What terrorist acts did Osama Bin Laden and the Mujahadeen commit when we were funding and supporting them during the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in the 80's? Al Quaida did not become a terrorist organization until Saudi Arabia was threatened by Iraq in the early 90's, Osama Bin Laden offered the help of his Mujahadeen in Afghanistan and was turned down for a UN coalition led by the US.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
Right...we met with them before they became a terrorist organization. Funny how things change. We once fought wars against our biggest ally as well. Just like people countries change as well.
that is true but realize this: to the Russians ... they were terrorists, and we sponsored them. Just as we view Iraq for supposedly doing the same to our enemy.
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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by sxecrow
that is true but realize this: to the Russians ... they were terrorists, and we sponsored them. Just as we view Iraq for supposedly doing the same to our enemy.
Actually to the Russians then they were still not terrorists. WE sponsored them but they had not become a terrorist organization. They were only defending Afghanistan from an invading army.

Today in Iraq I do not consider attacks against American soldiers as terrorist...it is part of a war. But when you launch rockets at hotels housing journalists, or blow up the UN and the Red Cross those are terrorist acts.
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