Eclipse GST's run?
O.G. SON!
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Damn I didnt see the 2nd page......Im not meeting any honda half way.....My neighbor has a 98 turbo type r running 15psi....I can race that any time I want. So whoever thinks they have it....bring it.:booty:
you motorboatin' s.o.b.
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From: Mexico, by Jaymar
Originally posted by flappy188
Damn I didnt see the 2nd page......Im not meeting any honda half way.....My neighbor has a 98 turbo type r running 15psi....I can race that any time I want. So whoever thinks they have it....bring it.:booty:
Damn I didnt see the 2nd page......Im not meeting any honda half way.....My neighbor has a 98 turbo type r running 15psi....I can race that any time I want. So whoever thinks they have it....bring it.:booty:
me thinks you don't want to meet half way cuz your car will break down :fawk:
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From: Southern NH
Originally posted by Derek
all I read was.. "I think I'm the shit cuz I offer a challenge, but won't actually leave my home to prove my statements cuz I'm a little bitch."
me thinks you don't want to meet half way cuz your car will break down :fawk:
all I read was.. "I think I'm the shit cuz I offer a challenge, but won't actually leave my home to prove my statements cuz I'm a little bitch."
me thinks you don't want to meet half way cuz your car will break down :fawk:
And just to add my fundamental two cents, plenty of Honda motors are good for forced induction.
The D-Series, B18B and F22/F23 both are excellent candidates, EVEN with aluminum blocks. :down:
Le Grand Illusion
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From: Damascus, MD
Originally posted by flappy188
Why is the GST being singled out? The AWD has the same motor too just different drive train. Every car has their factory flukes......rx7s motors are junk, 95-99 eclipses are known for crankwalk...and hondas motors are turds out of the factory....the nsx which is their "exotic car" is the slowest car. Im not talking shit on hondas because there is a select few that are actually respectable but most of the hondas on the road are riced out and give imports a bad name. Honda motors are def reliable and are geared more toward all motor.....but the reliablility goes out the window once you throw forced induction on. I think you guys need to discuss your own problems with your own cars instead of worring about cars that are out of your league. My 99 GST has about $6500 in performance mods and i havent had any problems.......EVER! Over the winter i am switching to a 1g motor but crankwalk doesnt happen as much as you ppl make it out to be. But back to the question " how do the gsts run" if anyone wants to come find out.....come to belle vernon pa and throw your pink slips out
Why is the GST being singled out? The AWD has the same motor too just different drive train. Every car has their factory flukes......rx7s motors are junk, 95-99 eclipses are known for crankwalk...and hondas motors are turds out of the factory....the nsx which is their "exotic car" is the slowest car. Im not talking shit on hondas because there is a select few that are actually respectable but most of the hondas on the road are riced out and give imports a bad name. Honda motors are def reliable and are geared more toward all motor.....but the reliablility goes out the window once you throw forced induction on. I think you guys need to discuss your own problems with your own cars instead of worring about cars that are out of your league. My 99 GST has about $6500 in performance mods and i havent had any problems.......EVER! Over the winter i am switching to a 1g motor but crankwalk doesnt happen as much as you ppl make it out to be. But back to the question " how do the gsts run" if anyone wants to come find out.....come to belle vernon pa and throw your pink slips out
2) the GSX drivetrain was crap - I've known five different GSX owners who ALL complained about the CV joints (8 of them) breaking often, at high expense. Let's not even get into the stock transmissions in the AWD cars - most of which die, predictably, after a few high RPM clutch drops.
3) RX-7 motors aren't junk. The wankel rotory is a sweet, reliable, powerful engine... if taken care of. Sure, the oil gets low or the heat gets high, the apex seals will burn up. Same goes for seals on a traditional piston/valve engine. The problem with the RX-7 was an inadequate cooling system, due to the confined space they shoehorned the engine into. The engine itself = fine.
4) Crankwalk is estimated to occur in 10% of all the turbo motors. Like everyone else here, I've known people on stock motors who've suffered it. I've also known people running more boost and tons of mod who don't have it. It's a factory design problem, and not all Eclipses will get it....but lots will. Resources:
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/w...crankshaft.htm
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t133854.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/sho...light=crankwalk
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/...gcrankshaft.htm
http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showt...light=crankwalk
http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showt...light=crankwalk
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/pol...sults&pollid=64
http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showt...light=crankwalk
Seriously, go check DSM boards.
5) Honda motors are turds out of the factory, eh? Uniformly? Well, I could say the same about DSM motors. Our LX, DX...your RS, GS, Talon Esi, etc. I'm not sure what you think about the H22A, B18C5, F20C, etc. I guess the only companies who don't make turd engines would be, what, Ferrari? Porsche?
6) A stock NSX (n/a)would eat the fastest stock 3000GT (turbo) alive. The NSX itself is not slow. It would have crushed you painfully before your $6500. An "exotic" NSX with $6500 in mods would still crush you painfully - as would any car in that class.
7) Most Hondas are riced out and give imports a bad name? Most Mitusbishis are too! I've seen some atrocious Eclipses (and Galants and Mirages, etc. etc.) which were as bad as any Honda I've seen. Mismatched, unpainted body kits, with broken pieces; flat black painted hood to simulate carbon fiber; aftermarket wheels in front, stocks in back, or the reverse; neon everywhere, in horrible colors; the works. Hondas are just more popular, so you see them more. After F+F, Eclipses became target #1 for ricers because of their affordability.
8) Reliability only goes out the window with forced induction when it's not properly tuned. There are people on this board who've had FI for ages without problems. There people all over who have gone turbo without a problem. It's all about the setup.
9) Out of our league? I imagine you think you're in the top league there is. It'll be interesting when you go again Z06s, Vipers, 911 TTs, 360 Modenas, etc. REAL top-league cars. Man, I really hope DC2 does get out there.
10) Your sad appeal for pink slip races betrays you as yet another ricer who has seen too many movies. What real racers go for pink slips? I'd love to see Michael Schumaker walk up the second-place finisher in an F1 race and hold his hand out, waiting for the title. Dream on, man - the real world isn't like that.
11) Your refusal to meet halfway just reinforces this. DC2 could just as easily taunt you meaninglessly the same way. "Hey punk, you have a race waiting for you in CA whenever you want one, I'll beat your ass." But he doesn't. Know why? Because he's serious. Meet him halfway. Your turbo ITR is local, you'll get bored... Texas would be a nice road trip anyway. Think about it.
KiMBO's Hubby
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From: San Hose Jose
:werd: hell fawking :werd: :yay:
i got $30 on it!!!! :thumbup:
this would be interesting...if this went down, i guarantee instant stardom from mulitple message boards like the civic vs. corvette race....
i got $30 on it!!!! :thumbup:
this would be interesting...if this went down, i guarantee instant stardom from mulitple message boards like the civic vs. corvette race....
O.G. SON!
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From: PittsburgH
I dont think my car will break down....i drove to florida on vacation. Ill leave my house im just not driving out of state. And if you wanna start shit I can actually back it up without my car. Not being a hard ass but i could beat 90% of your asses.....so go ahead and call me a little bitch. Come on down to belle vernon we race for slips all the time.....maybe one of your cars can beat my neighbors 95 sp78 supra over 800hp. So if you want to continue this talk to flappy for arrangements....if not come to www.dsmtalk.com and talk there. :closed:
You first stop trolling.
#2 if you want to post make a username.
#3 no one called you out. We were discussing the GST and crankwalk issues with the engine.
Flappy change your password and get your friend to stop using your username or I will ban it.
You first stop trolling.
#2 if you want to post make a username.
#3 no one called you out. We were discussing the GST and crankwalk issues with the engine.
Flappy change your password and get your friend to stop using your username or I will ban it.
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From: Location Location
You first stop trolling.
#2 if you want to post make a username.
#3 no one called you out. We were discussing the GST and crankwalk issues with the engine.
Flappy change your password and get your friend to stop using your username or I will ban it. Next time he posts using your username I will ban your username.
#2 if you want to post make a username.
#3 no one called you out. We were discussing the GST and crankwalk issues with the engine.
Flappy change your password and get your friend to stop using your username or I will ban it. Next time he posts using your username I will ban your username.
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