about 15, but you have to be careful with the case fan or you'll have a big surpriseh:

 

hahahhaaha........


but seriously...i want to replace my geforce2 Ti 64mb. :happysad:

 

what ship and mobo you got?

 

xp1700 and asus a7v266-e

getting old...but still running good.

 

check the other thread

 

also.. about your "ignore ATI" comment.. the benchmarks speak all...

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...800pro-31.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...800pro-29.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...28.html#4xfsaa

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...800pro-16.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...800pro-19.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...800pro-23.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...800pro-26.html

the ATI cards seem to come up on top every time... coincidence?

 

I really don't care about a benchmark. I've worked with ATI products and IMO they suck. End of story. It's my opinion and I don't care for any product they have ever made that I have used.

I am allowed that as you are allowed to praise and jerkoff over ATI if one so chooses.

Edit: I dunno if you read it, but I'll state it again. I don't do much gaming. So I don't look for FPS and FSAA and texture maps... I look at real world windows performance. I rarely play a 3d game. I'm almost always on a webpage or email or our help desk software etc, in dual monitors, work and home. 3d benchmarks are pretty useless to me. I'm looking for 2d quality and performance.

P.S. Not like it really matters... but the Matrox Millennium was the first video card to have any hardware 3d acceleration. Not anything impressive by far, but still the first... it started a trend.

 

The last ATI card I used was the All In Wonder. The wonder part was wondering if it was ever going to work. :chuckles: