god
Originally posted by sxecrow
"Whether one believes in religion or not, whether one believes in this religion or that religion, the very purpose of our life is happiness, the very motion of our life is towards happiness." - The Dalai Lama
"Whether one believes in religion or not, whether one believes in this religion or that religion, the very purpose of our life is happiness, the very motion of our life is towards happiness." - The Dalai Lama
Originally posted by sxecrow
I'm going to quote a part from the movie Red Planet:
"I think you're just ignoring the facts. Im a geneticist. I write code - A, G, T, P .. in different combinations - hacking the human genome. OK? I choose what, I choose where and either your kidneys work or you grow a 6th finger. I DO THAT. Now you spot God, you let me know. Until then ... I'll trust my Ph.D's."
I'm going to quote a part from the movie Red Planet:
"I think you're just ignoring the facts. Im a geneticist. I write code - A, G, T, P .. in different combinations - hacking the human genome. OK? I choose what, I choose where and either your kidneys work or you grow a 6th finger. I DO THAT. Now you spot God, you let me know. Until then ... I'll trust my Ph.D's."

mission to mars was better, but even that movie had its bad moments.....
And I'm kinda against genetic research. I'm sure it can provide alot of cures (maybe diabetis, alsimers, etc), but then again, look at some of the medication we have now: It kinda 'helps' but then it gives you this list of side-effects that makes you wish you weren't taking it to begin with. If stem-cell research gives us answers like that, its a wasted industry, IMO.
Again, it goes back to peoples fear of death. We don't want to face up to the reality of, eventually, we will die. Its a matter of how and when.
Originally posted by Prince
oh man, I cna't read all you guys copy pasted. Have to goto work tomrrow. But some things just want to point out:
- God in human-like shape is only a Christian concept IMO. Islam doesn't have a figure ANYWHERE of God(Allah). Budha isn't worshipped, but admired and followed to get to better "realisation", but he life style was never meant to be followed.
- Judiasm lead to Christianity lead to Islam (at least islamic point of view). Islam being final religion until D-day (because other religions have been changed - no original text / language avaialble)
But all three above religions are considered true religions in Islam.
oh man, I cna't read all you guys copy pasted. Have to goto work tomrrow. But some things just want to point out:
- God in human-like shape is only a Christian concept IMO. Islam doesn't have a figure ANYWHERE of God(Allah). Budha isn't worshipped, but admired and followed to get to better "realisation", but he life style was never meant to be followed.
- Judiasm lead to Christianity lead to Islam (at least islamic point of view). Islam being final religion until D-day (because other religions have been changed - no original text / language avaialble)
But all three above religions are considered true religions in Islam.
yeah, I actually have quite some respect for the muslim faith. I'd convert, if it wasn't so cliche. But I kinda like my 'relgion-fusion'
still, I like your reason.
- As someone point out earlier (vaguly), we are not smart enough to comprehend God, but that does not mean IT does't exist
- There is a famous astronomy theory (i think called Universal theory...not proven yet), that if all forces are added of universe, it will become 0, which it was before big bang.
In other words, there was nothingness before big bang. You cannot have everything u observe if there hasn't been any intervention in this nothingness
In other words, there was nothingness before big bang. You cannot have everything u observe if there hasn't been any intervention in this nothingness
we just don't remember.....
- Your consiousness - that you can think if God existed or not - is proof by itself. Chemicals / biology mixing and creating new matter, changing shape, etc does not give this new matter ability to think. You can think, there must be more to it, than science.
- I consider myself good Muslim, yet the rules i follow in my life are MY JUDGEMENT / LOGIC (which sometime conflict with traditional islam). The truest and purest religion is common sense. Although guidance is acquired from Islamic principles.
I think any strict religion will set you on the right path, which is why I have respect for Islam and Judism. Being raised catholic, it set the tone of morals that I feel are nessisary to live a succesful, fully-lived life.
I think you've hit the nail on the head. Religion was set up to kinda give an idea. It's up to the individual to set the interpitation.
Anyway, enough of my biased views ;-)
I don't mean to argue anyone, just throwing my ideas. Thanx
I don't mean to argue anyone, just throwing my ideas. Thanx
Originally posted by 18secFerio
eh, I beleive in multiple big bangs. Like the universe is an electric pulse, and life keeps happening over and over.
we just don't remember.....
eh, I beleive in multiple big bangs. Like the universe is an electric pulse, and life keeps happening over and over.
we just don't remember.....
"What was before Adam?" (someone asked)
"Adam" Mohammad (PBUH) replied
and "What was before that?"
"Adam" Mohammad (PBUH) replied
....
Tells us two things, there might have been worlds before us, and it is deja-vu we are stuck in. Plus, Adam wasn't a person, it was a nation. Holy Text are much more methaphorical than we take it for.
I don't know, if i beleive that though....
whats that from? koran?
even still, it makes sense to me.
taken into account things work on waves, and its a sequence at some level or another, it would make sense that there's a period of life and a period of resting, repeat ad infintium. Again, like a pulse of electricity.
even still, it makes sense to me.
taken into account things work on waves, and its a sequence at some level or another, it would make sense that there's a period of life and a period of resting, repeat ad infintium. Again, like a pulse of electricity.


