Building a computer from scratch, looking for opinions
I've got some money saved up and thinking of building myself a new computer. I've done upgrading to older systems, more memory, new PCI cards, new HD's and optical drives, even replaced a floppy and HD in a laptop, but never build one completely from scratch. I think I have all the basic ideas down, but the only way to learn is to try. Here's the parts list I've come up with so far.
Pentium 4 2.8Ghz, 800Mhz FSB HT
Asus P4P800 MB, 865PE chipset (HT), 800Mhz FSB, 2 SATA slots, 8X AGP, integrated AD audio, 10/100/1000 ethernet, 8 USB 2.0, 2 Firewire.
2 sticks of Corsair XMS extereme 512M PC3200 (400Mhz), 1Gig total
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128Meg
Western Digital Raptor, 36G 10,000 rpm SATA HD (planning to add a standard IDE ~100Gig for storage later)
Lite On DVD/CD reader, Lite On 52x CDRW
Cooler Master alumium case and Enermax 431W PS
NEC/Mitsu 19" CRT
WinXP Home
That's pretty much it. Ordering basically everything from New Egg, around $1800 for everything. I was wondering if anybody had any opinions or things they'd change. I'm basically building a strong gaming machine that can do pretty much anything without spending a fortune.
I'm going with the 2.8G P4 and 865 chipset rather than a 3.2 or 3.0 and 875 becuase I figure by the time it becomes an issue, the Pentium 5 and Athalon 64's will be out so save the money now. Same with the 128Meg 9800. They have a 256Meg but it's $120 more and by the time I need 256, a much faster/better chipset will be out. I don't plan to move this thing much so I'm sticking witha cheaper CRT rather than an LCD for now. I've also used Lite on stuff before and liked it, so I wanted use that. I decided not to go with a DVD-R for now because I'll never use it and by the time I need one, they'll probably be $100. Almost everything is retail, except the HD which is OEM only right now. Probably going to order this week (still doing some research) but I wanted some opinions. Thanks, seeya.
Pentium 4 2.8Ghz, 800Mhz FSB HT
Asus P4P800 MB, 865PE chipset (HT), 800Mhz FSB, 2 SATA slots, 8X AGP, integrated AD audio, 10/100/1000 ethernet, 8 USB 2.0, 2 Firewire.
2 sticks of Corsair XMS extereme 512M PC3200 (400Mhz), 1Gig total
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128Meg
Western Digital Raptor, 36G 10,000 rpm SATA HD (planning to add a standard IDE ~100Gig for storage later)
Lite On DVD/CD reader, Lite On 52x CDRW
Cooler Master alumium case and Enermax 431W PS
NEC/Mitsu 19" CRT
WinXP Home
That's pretty much it. Ordering basically everything from New Egg, around $1800 for everything. I was wondering if anybody had any opinions or things they'd change. I'm basically building a strong gaming machine that can do pretty much anything without spending a fortune.
I'm going with the 2.8G P4 and 865 chipset rather than a 3.2 or 3.0 and 875 becuase I figure by the time it becomes an issue, the Pentium 5 and Athalon 64's will be out so save the money now. Same with the 128Meg 9800. They have a 256Meg but it's $120 more and by the time I need 256, a much faster/better chipset will be out. I don't plan to move this thing much so I'm sticking witha cheaper CRT rather than an LCD for now. I've also used Lite on stuff before and liked it, so I wanted use that. I decided not to go with a DVD-R for now because I'll never use it and by the time I need one, they'll probably be $100. Almost everything is retail, except the HD which is OEM only right now. Probably going to order this week (still doing some research) but I wanted some opinions. Thanks, seeya.
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Thanks. I figured it's a faster interface, build into the motherboard and not that much more expensive (aside from the reduced size, but I'm not an MP3 junky).
http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/.../wd360-02.html
Basically it's SCSI speed without the need for SCSI and I figured with the OS and applications loaded on to it, it should scream and a seperate HD will give me all the space I'll ever need and enough room for a lot of backups.
http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/.../wd360-02.html
Basically it's SCSI speed without the need for SCSI and I figured with the OS and applications loaded on to it, it should scream and a seperate HD will give me all the space I'll ever need and enough room for a lot of backups.
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'06 Subaru Legacy Spec B - Stock, for now
'98 Civic EX - CTR headlights and grill, Kosei K1's, for sale
'90 240SX - SR20DET that will never get installed, project car.
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'06 Subaru Legacy Spec B - Stock, for now
'98 Civic EX - CTR headlights and grill, Kosei K1's, for sale
'90 240SX - SR20DET that will never get installed, project car.
uh...make that 2.8C a 2.6C and and buy some higher speed ram...i have the same exact ram with a 2.4C...its straight to do 3.0 OC but can't do much more....a 2.6C can do 1:1 and be fine with a good OC....sure the fsb wont be as high but performance overall will be better....sweet vid card, i got the 9600 pro
Originally posted by Andy
Thanks. I figured it's a faster interface, build into the motherboard and not that much more expensive (aside from the reduced size, but I'm not an MP3 junky).
http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/.../wd360-02.html
Basically it's SCSI speed without the need for SCSI and I figured with the OS and applications loaded on to it, it should scream and a seperate HD will give me all the space I'll ever need and enough room for a lot of backups.
Thanks. I figured it's a faster interface, build into the motherboard and not that much more expensive (aside from the reduced size, but I'm not an MP3 junky).
http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/.../wd360-02.html
Basically it's SCSI speed without the need for SCSI and I figured with the OS and applications loaded on to it, it should scream and a seperate HD will give me all the space I'll ever need and enough room for a lot of backups.
try to buy another raptor so you'll be ultra fast with raid....but does that board have onboard raid....i'm sure 875p mobos do but not sure about 865
Originally posted by sman789
uh...make that 2.8C a 2.6C and and buy some higher speed ram...i have the same exact ram with a 2.4C...its straight to do 3.0 OC but can't do much more....a 2.6C can do 1:1 and be fine with a good OC....sure the fsb wont be as high but performance overall will be better....sweet vid card, i got the 9600 pro
uh...make that 2.8C a 2.6C and and buy some higher speed ram...i have the same exact ram with a 2.4C...its straight to do 3.0 OC but can't do much more....a 2.6C can do 1:1 and be fine with a good OC....sure the fsb wont be as high but performance overall will be better....sweet vid card, i got the 9600 pro
I've though about a RAID 0 for it, but i wasn't sure if I wanted to or not. The MB does have built in RAID support.
http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=...eluxe&langs=01
I just wasn't sure if it would be worth buying the second HD and buliding the RAID array. I've never used a RAID setup so I'm not real sure about all of it (I know what is it and what it does, just never used it).
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Andy - Reinstated Hybrid Forum Moderator
'06 Subaru Legacy Spec B - Stock, for now
'98 Civic EX - CTR headlights and grill, Kosei K1's, for sale
'90 240SX - SR20DET that will never get installed, project car.
^^^this is my first pc i've ever touched the insides of...i'm 17 and its all really simple...i've overclocked it way past 250fsb but wasnt stable.
You can't really messup your system unless the PSU messes up...
You can't really messup your system unless the PSU messes up...
Originally posted by Kevin
looks like a really nice system...
but i rather cut down on something and get a dvdburner included..
looks like a really nice system...
but i rather cut down on something and get a dvdburner included..
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'06 Subaru Legacy Spec B - Stock, for now
'98 Civic EX - CTR headlights and grill, Kosei K1's, for sale
'90 240SX - SR20DET that will never get installed, project car.
Andy - Reinstated Hybrid Forum Moderator
'06 Subaru Legacy Spec B - Stock, for now
'98 Civic EX - CTR headlights and grill, Kosei K1's, for sale
'90 240SX - SR20DET that will never get installed, project car.
Originally posted by Andy
I though about geting one but I honestly don't think I'd use it much. I'm not big into grabbing rips off the web or making copies of my friends stuff (I have about 4-5 DVD"s I've bought an never watched). Besides, I think there 2 competing standards right now so I'll just wait and let them figure it out first and let the price drop. By the time I do decide to get one, they'll probably be around $100 and the media will be a lot cheaper.
I though about geting one but I honestly don't think I'd use it much. I'm not big into grabbing rips off the web or making copies of my friends stuff (I have about 4-5 DVD"s I've bought an never watched). Besides, I think there 2 competing standards right now so I'll just wait and let them figure it out first and let the price drop. By the time I do decide to get one, they'll probably be around $100 and the media will be a lot cheaper.
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i strongly advise you to take a visit to www.anandtech.com
you can find good info and deals on computer gears there..


