You can call the US an Empire if you want...I am just glad my President is doing something about tyrants who support terrorism, have WMD that can be used against the US and our allies, and would be willing to use them given the chance.

 

When there is continued refusal to abide by international law, these things justify a strike.



It's clear who paid attention in their history and civics classes and who didn't. I am dissapointed in some of you. Some of you sound like the only thing you ever pay attention to is the next BMW or how many six speed Accords your dealer will get, and then base your opinions of what really matters on things other ignorant people tell you. But there are some things in life just a little more important. I guess I should expect some of what I see considering this is, afterall, a web site for car chat.

 

With cherries on top.



I agree with all of what you said though. Many conspiracy theorists say that FDR let Pearl Harbor happen because he wanted a reason to go to war...and with all the screw ups that happened hours and days before the attack that could have otherwise prevented or allowed us to fight the attack, who knows for sure? But I doubt it. He was crippled and old but he wasn't nuts.

I agree fully here. I respect the liberals that bring forth good argumements and really know their stuff, but a lot of what I see here is babble about how Bush is a terrorist and how the Democrats could run the country so much better. How do they figure? Well, uh, err, Clinton had all those years of prosperity and he was a Democrat! (rolleyes) The part about us mistreating the arabs at Guantanamo is laughable. If the tables were turned and we were their prisoners and they had decimated nearly all of us after we attacked and killed many of their civilians, do you think that they would do anything but shoot us in the head and throw us in a ditch?

 

It's not the responsibility of the United States to enforce international law. It is however, the policy of the United States to not strike first.
That's it! Everyone who disagrees with you is obviously wrong and on top of that they're uneducated.
What they would do in the same position doesn't matter. Our country is supposedly (at least our government claims to be) better than that.

 

Well, if you're so educated why don't you quote the text of the Constitution which states the United States is not permitted to strike first under any circumstances? Verbatim.

 

I say yes but that is as far as I am going in this conversation.

 

Oh great, now we're gonna get attacked.

 

Oh please! :rollseyes:

The US is the best nation in the world, we account for 1/3 of the world's GDP, have the fairest laws around, the best structured government, the most powerful military, and are the envy of the whole world. There are times when the US needs to step up on the world stage and say enough. The tyrants have been throwing sand in their little corners of the sand box for long enough and it is finally infringing upon our freedom. If the UN is not going to have the backbone to do what is right in the world than somebody should...and that role falls to the US and other nations that know right from wrong.

 

The US has the highest crime rate, we've got a huge unemployment rate with a huge amount of our citizens at or below the poverty line, we have corporate criminals getting away with god knows what, your fair laws are tattered with loopholes, and the military is the most powerful because of republicans that love war mongering. Talk about tyrants throwing sand? I can think of a few tyrants imposing harsh sanctions on Iraq from which hundreds of thousands of children die. But instead of offering solutions, we get someone with "backbone" to flex Americas muscles and only stir up more hate and resentment for us. That doesn't seem like right from wrong to me.

 

Ok. I'm gonna call BS on this. First, who are the "tyrants" that did such mean and terrible things by imposing sanctions on Iraq? Do you know why they were put in place, and were you against them? I'd really like to see a quoted source for the "hundreds of thousands of children" that you claim suffered as a result.