no we're calling him retarded b/c he's pulling shit out of his a** that doesn't make any sense. As for the Bible discrepencies, take a look at the Gospels, and reach each one on Jesus' birth.

 

i did. in fact, i have several times. i have even tried to read it skeptically. nope dont see it. but since you said you are even willing to point it out, and you had made the original claim in this thread about it contradicting each other, how about you point it out?

 

here's a link to one, and let me remind you, these are direct quotes from the bible.

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.co.../cyrenian.html

maybe you should check out the whole page. all sorts of fun stuff (and no, this isn't the place where i heard about the discrepancies)

 

ill check on it when i get home from work later

 

Don't get me wrong here, I don't hate Chrisitians. I respect the fact that you are actually going to look at this stuff, and its ok if it doesn't bother you. I was raised Roman Catholic, but when I got a little older, something didn't feel right. I looked into some other religions (Wicca made the biggest impact), did lots of research, and felt that Christianity was BS. If you can come to a well-educated decision on this, mad props to you. I just get a bit pissed off when people hand me information that is a bunch of crap (NVS)

 

whoa guys.. this is the heaviest stuff ive ever read.. heres what im gonna say... im not supporting religion/creation OR aethiests/evolution. what i have to say is about OPINIONS and PERSPECTIVES.

this is my opinion and perspective:
Do i believe in creation- kinda
Do i believe in evolution- kinda

yea, maybe we evolved over millions of years, but where did it originate?? i don't know.. it couldve just been one piece of matter, or it could be God, or it could be aliens that we think is god.

what i like.. is what all of you have to say about all of this.. i believe in god... its a thought to me.. it's not a person or spirit.. its a higher form of thinking to me. its a higher consciousness. i think that we are all a small part of the greater thought.. i think all of us are right. if we are all "made in God's image" then we are all apart of god and then we all have some truth about each of us. so to me, everyones perspective and opinion is correct... because its just a different interpretation of it. this is why i don't believe in religions anymore.. they are based off of what 1 man thought.. well wait a sec.. we are our own person.. we should be able to think what we want.. not follow stupid procedures and rituals (i used to be catholic..fyi).

to me god is love, and hope. can you prove with data that you love someone.. not really.. you can show people that you love her/him..but only really the feeling is in you. same with hope. Hope is something that someone has, and beats the odds.. cancer patients, people in accidents.. whatever. that is the common thing with all people. Love and Hope. that is my god... and whatever we say about how we got here.. i think is right. this is just my perspective on god and how we got here.. but i don't think belittling people and caling them retartded is the answer.. i think we all need to think above how we think now to try and comprehend how we got here.

thats my belief and how we got here. thanks

 

Having studied both religions, they are virtually the same. Same story, different prophet.

Muslim propganda? :rofl: Yeah, all those Muslims trying to convert Christians and Jews... that happens a lot around my area... :rofl:

 

I didn't say we should teach Creation. I would rather have nothing taught at all then either or.

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Every single thing in science is a theory. Have you ever taken a science class? Every scientific "fact" can be proven wrong by finding one contradictory scientific (i.e. not religious) example. It is the government's job to teach science regardless of any sort of conflict it may have with certain people's religion. Once again, if you don't like it then go to private school.

No, not everything in science is a theory. A lot of things in science are factual, some things are theoretical though. The government is crossing the line when they start teaching unessexary things that go against anyone's religion.

Private school? Well yeah there is that option but the problem is in the middle / high schools now.

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The Bible is literature. It doesn't function as a factual source.

Your opinion.

 

Well seeing as to how I have sudied many religions I have to poke at your comment here.

Muslims believe in Allah which would be the Christian equivelent of Jesus...a profit sent to teach the word of the greater being.

If you ever hear a christian use the name Jehovah in a sermon or conversation I would be highly surprised.....the only religions I know of that use that name or any rendition of it are the Jehovahs Witnesses and in the Jewiwish faith which is pronounced (phonetically) Ye-ho-wah and is used sparingly in the Jewish community if I remember right (correct me if I am wrong).

The Catholics have never acknowledged the use of gods name aside from "Lord", "Father" etc. which are all titles and not a name.

 

That's just you being selfish. They might use a different name and have different theology, but it's all talking about the same thing.

The only Muslim "propaganda" I've studied is the Koran, and if you want to call that propaganda then the Bible is just as much propaganda.
It's science. It's a secular pursuit. If you don't want to learn science in a public school then don't go to a public school.
A scientific "law" is only a law because it hasn't been proven wrong yet. It's all theories in that there is a huge body of evidence in support of them, but there is still a possibility for contrary evidence to be found.
If you think the problem is that public schools are teaching science, then you're never going to get your way. The government is totally separate from any sort of religious instutution so therefore it is not responsible for refraining from teaching science that perhaps casts doubt upon people's religion. If you don't like evolution then stay out of the public school system, because that's never going to change.
A fact is something that is univerally accepted to be true. While your faith tells you that the Bible is true, not everybody believes it is. It hasn't been proven as fact through the same means as all other facts, so it can't be used as a source of fact.
Allah is basically G-d. Muhammad is more similar to a Jesus figure but Muslims don't believe he will at some point be reincarnated and save the world.

The common Jewish usage is pronounced "ah-doh-nai." In going with why I keep writing G-d, it is usually written with the Hebrew characters that phoenetically would spell out "ya-weh" when badly transliterated into English.