This is for those of you who block traffic.... and troop ships.... ignorant protesters. I hope you are all prosecuted by a federal judge to the fullest.


SABOTAGE


U.S. CODE AS OF 1/02/01


TITLE 18 CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I, CHAPTER 105 - SABOTAGE


Section 2153


(a) Whoever, when the United States is at war, or in times of national emergency as declared by the President or by the Congress, with intent to injure, interfere with, or obstruct the United States or any associate nation in preparing for or carrying on the
war or defense activities, or, with reason to believe that his act may injure, interfere with, or obstruct the United States or any associate nation in preparing for or carrying on the war or defense activities, willfully injures, destroys, contaminates or infects,
or attempts to so injure, destroy, contaminate or infect any war material, war premises, or war utilities, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than thirty years, or both.


(b) If two or more persons conspire to violate this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be punished as provided in subsection (a) of this section.


Section 2154. Production of defective war material, war premises, or war utilities


(a) Whoever, when the United States is at war, or in times of national emergency as declared by the President or by the Congress, with intent to injure, interfere with, or obstruct the United States or any associate nation in preparing for or carrying on the
war or defense activities, or, with reason to believe that his act may injure, interfere with, or obstruct the United States or any associate nation in preparing for or carrying on the war or defense activities, willfully makes, constructs, or causes to be made or
constructed in a defective manner, or attempts to make, construct, or cause to be made or constructed in a defective manner any war material, war premises or war utilities, or any tool, implement, machine, utensil, or receptacle used or employed in making, producing, manufacturing, or repairing any such war material, war premises or war utilities, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than thirty years, or both.


(b) If two or more persons conspire to violate this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be punished as provided in subsection (a) of this section.






Section 2155. Destruction of national-defense materials, national-defense premises, or national-defense utilities


(a) Whoever, with intent to injure, interfere with, or obstruct the national defense of the United States, willfully injures, destroys, contaminates or infects, or attempts to so injure, destroy, contaminate or infect any national-defense material, national-defense premises, or national-defense utilities, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.


(b) If two or more persons conspire to violate this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be punished as provided in subsection (a) of this section.


U.S. Code, Title 18, Chapter 12, Section 231


Section 231. Civil disorders


(a)(1) Whoever teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm or explosive or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that the same will be unlawfully employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder which may in any way or degree obstruct, delay, or adversely affect commerce or the movement of any article or commodity in commerce or the conduct or performance of any federally protected function; or


(2) Whoever transports or manufactures for transportation in commerce any firearm, or explosive or incendiary device, knowing or having reason to know or intending that the same will be used unlawfully in furtherance of a civil disorder; or


(3) Whoever commits or attempts to commit any act to obstruct, impede, or interfere with any fireman or law enforcement officer lawfully engaged in the lawful performance of his official duties incident to and during the commission of a civil disorder which in any way or degree obstructs, delays, or adversely affects commerce
or the movement of any article or commodity in commerce or the conduct or performance of any federally protected function - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
(b) Nothing contained in this section shall make unlawful any act of any law enforcement officer which is performed in the lawful performance of his official duties.

 

Too bad we're not in a state of emergency or war. Was a good thought tho...

 

I think the people who went to Iraq as human shields should be charged with treason and their U.S. citizenship taken away. But, how many protestors are you going to see now? I think I even heard Sen. Kennedy praise Bush! Since they pulled that statue down everyone is on the bandwagon. Kind of makes me sick to know that I've been supporting going in since November of last year and now everyone agrees. Where were they six months ago?

 

I could not agree more!

 

They hadn't been tricked into suporting the government yet with all of this talk of "we went in there to liberate Iraqis." That's all well and good, but wasn't this about weapons of mass distruction? That was the reason we went in there, not because Saddam made some change in his domestic policies that could no longer be tolerated.

Anybody notice that the people who try to bash other people over the head with ideas are also the ones who want to go to war so much?

 

I don't think it's so much trying to bash people over the head with ideas as we are the only capable country to get rid of the world's garbage. Let's be honest. We will find WMD, it will just take time. The weapons inspectors couldn't find what we knew because Iraq has everything hidden so well. Now, I can just hear those conspiracy theorists with "the U.S. planted them". Either way, Iraq isn't even so much the big deal as it is just a start of what we are doing...... slowly but surely we are going around the world in the war against terrorism. Iraq is just part of it -- a small part. That wasn't even a war. Ask your grandparents. They know a war. WWII was a war. If you loose 50,000 people it's a goddamn war. If you loose 120 it's a skermish. A battle. Not a war. People don't even begin to understan our military might. We sent the third string to Iraq. Our first string is still ready and waiting for bigger things. I think this is our time to take care of business and weed out all the evils we can. Not to occupy or take over countries. But take out the enemies so legit governments can be set up by their own people. It's time to do it now. There's a reason the song Have You Forgotten was written, and why it's #1 on every chart right now. It's all about 9/11. The people who don't think so are very foolish and ignorant. It's all about 9/11.

 

And pro-actively preventing a repeat!

 

This is the truth and we should never forget the cost.

 

don't make me bash you over the head hfawk:




I've tried, its almost impossible to change someone's opinion on anything....

 

Education for ignorant war supporters



“O, it is excellent to have a giant’s strength; but it is tyrannous to use it like a giant.” - William Shakespeare, in “Measure for Measure”

“But ‘tis common proof that lowliness is young ambition’s ladder, whereto the climber-upward turns his face; but when he once attains the upmost round, he then unto the ladder turns his back, looks in the clouds, scorning the base degrees by which he did ascend.” - William Shakespeare, in “Julius Caesar”



President Bush and his supporters easily and readily point to Mr. Bush’s efforts to work with the U.N. in the failed attempt to obtain the second Resolution to 1441 for his war with Iraq. He eventually based his authority on previous U.N. resolutions that could have been argued against. But once he had certain proof about the utmost success in the military component of that war, he immediately turned his back on the U.N., whose resolutions were the justification for the war and scorns even the possibility of US involvement in the after war rebuilding phase of the new Iraq that is to emerge in the future. It is more than obvious now that the President was concerned more with “Regime Change” and the constitutional reshaping of Iraq than the removal of WMD to which U.N. Resolutions referred. Today, we read in the press that Syria also needs a regime change and on 04/20/03, the President told the world that Syria appears to be getting the message so it appears that he might be considering the use of his giant might like a “giant”.

It is interesting to listen to television hosts and guests explain how the U.N. failed the people of Iraq by failing to rubber stamp the US desire to wage war against Iraq. One would think that the U.N. is to be considered in the same manner as a state such as the US with the diplomatic right to use war or the threat of war as part of its diplomacy. Yet, as the world’s only super power and one of the five Security Council veto-holding nations, the US holds a major responsibility for the outcome of U.N. decisions. Thus the U.N.’s failure to pass the second resolution is also (and perhaps more so) a failure of the US to make its case and to engineer a successful diplomatic effort that would have won passage of the desired resolution

Arguments are now being made that it would be unfair to the people of Iraq to have the U.N. involved, significantly, in the reshaping of the new nation of Iraq. Yet many Iraqis want the U.N. to be involved and several states in the region including friends of the US such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt are calling for U.N. involvement. Even some television hosts and lawmakers in the US are recognizing the need for U.N. responsibility for the reshaping of Iraq, but the President and his team insist that the vital role for the U.N., other than in the humanitarian area, is recognition of the US imposed temporary Administration team for Iraq and the establishment of legitimacy of its efforts to award contracts and to sell Iraq’s oil while the US shapes the future of Iraq, despite talking the public talk about Iraqi control, by directing the selection of its rulers.

Several things appear to be most curious about US policy and actions regarding Iraq’s current needs and the future needs of the Iraqi people. The US Congress virtually suspended the Constitution and gave the President “carte blanche” to go to war with Iraq with the one provision that he return to the Congress to demonstrate that he had expended every effort to find another solution. He declared war on national (international) T.V. even before he went back to the Congress. It appears very odd, that the interim administration in civil matters of state building not connected with safety, security and immediate living needs in Iraq is, apparently, being handled by the military arm of the US instead of the State Department and it appears as though it is being done at arms length from the Congress of the US.

Some of the more curious things revolve around the awarding of contracts for the rebuilding of Iraq’s infrastructure and civil society. Many times, we have listened to Brig. Gen. Brooks telling us about the need for assessments of the state of Iraq’s oil industry before start up could be talked about, yet we have contracts worth several billion US dollars already being awarded. Bechtel Corp has a general construction contract from the State Department worth $680 million, yet no survey of actual construction needs could have been carried out since the destruction is on going. How any company is able to bid on a contract of such magnitude without prior knowledge of the nature and locations of the construction effort and the specifications and other terms of the contract is indeed questionable. Halliburton (HAL) has a $7 billion emergency oil field repair contract from the Army even though the assessment of needs has not been completed. Washington Group International and another company from Farmington, MA have both received Army contracts of $100 million each for general contracting, and International resources Group of Washington DC has a $7 million contract from the State Department for personnel support, among several other contracts that have already been awarded. One wonders what would happen to these contracts if when the Iraqi people form their own administration they reject the plans made by the US!

Even the nature of awarding these contracts appear as fuzzy as the math that might have been used to determine the amounts of the contracts without certain knowledge of the amount of work required and the specifications of the work as decided by the hoped for independent government of Iraq that is being promoted and assured. Since Iraq is not a US state, but an independent nation, why should US federal government standards be imposed on the Iraqi people? Why is it that local contractors and contractors from other nations with experience in Iraq could only qualify for sub contract work when, as stated by a Halliburton spokesperson, it is determined that “the opportunity was a good business venture”.

Also on the curious side is the apparent blueprint for Iraq and the Middle East that Mr. Bush appears to be following. It appears to resemble one drawn up before 9/11 by PNAC. Shouldn’t the US Congress have some say in this matter? Shouldn’t the Congress have some say in the use of Iraqi funds that have been withheld previously? Why is the military side of the US responsible for rebuilding the state of Iraq instead of the State department? Why is a former military and weapons expert given the task of rebuilding Iraq while reporting to another military person. How democratic is the process when the US brings in the “darling” of the military, Iraqi dissident, Ahmed Chalabi and his small military force to work in the new Iraq. How is it that although many Iraqi people are pushing for their own Iraqi formed administration, Mr. Chalabi states that the new government of Iraq would not be a theocracy? What if a theocracy is what a majority of the people of Iraq desire?

I think it is the practice of democratic nations that they do not interfere in the constitutional affairs of independent nations. If the US government decides it should be involved in nation building, I believe that it is a matter that should be voted on by the electorate, at the time of a Presidential election where it would be part of the platform of the Party that is elected. If the decision to intervene in the affairs of other nations is in between elections, I would think that the Congress would have some responsibility for the decision (based on more recent happenings, perhaps even the Supreme Court might have to rule). Why is there no debate on these matters in Congress, and also, where is the Democratic Party while these things are occurring?

If Iraq is to be an independent nation, how could the US decide to retain four military bases in Iraq prior to a national government being installed and empowered to authorize US bases on their soil? Why is it that the oil to Syria is turned off, but nothing is done about oil shipped to Egypt and Jordan that, like Syria, is in defiance of U.N. imposed sanctions. How could the U.S. ask for removal of sanctions when the US insists that WMD are still there to be found in Iraq? Which Iraq government is in place to work with the U.N. on removal of sanctions and to administer sale of Iraq’s oil for food programs? Should there even be talk of sanctions now that Saddam’s regime is no longer in power?

There might yet be a strange and unintended consequence of this war that might note bode well for the US, Israel and the world. Already in Iraq, we see an effort to unite the different factions of the Islamic faith in Iraq. It could become a precursor of a uniting of all the different factions of the Islamic faith into one cohesive body that would work together for the imposition of Islamic practices and procedures throughout the world. This could produce a giant Islamic strength that we could, surely expect to be used in a giant or gigantic manner.

By: Calvin K. Preddie - 04/22/03