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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by dliske
I know exactly what imperialism and colonization are...no need to explain. Yet, imperialism tends to have a negative connotation, and colonization does not. That is why I raised the question.
Let it not be said that I gave you the benefit of the doubt. I accept your explanation that you were distorting my words with negative spin. Let me know if you want to get around to the topic.


Again, Minh was FIRST betrayed by Truman. That set the stage. You can't change that fact.
Fact? What fact? Repeating the same vague claim over and over will never make it a fact. If you're denying that Ho had any contact with US officials during WWII, please provide something to substantiate your claim.


Simply because Eisenhower followed, you want to blame the GOP? The flaw in that logic is that I could counter that since Kennedy and Johnson followed, the Democrats should be blamed.
You're the one playing the blame game here; please stop putting words into my mouth. If you're denying that Eisenhower championed the "Domino Theory" and/or that he was involved in nation building in S Vietnam, please provide something to substantiate your claim.


Name calling??? Give me a break. Saying you have a liberal slant is name calling? Wondering if and how you protested is name calling? Sheesh. If I called you a f*****g d**k, that, I agree would be name calling. But, quite frankly, I haven't stooped to your level.
Regardless of how you choose to redefine it, what you have been doing is attacking the person rather than the issue. You're the one who is stooping low. Again, you might not like the truth, but you can't refute it.
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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Well.

I think it was last night or this morning on the news... Some Fox reporter said that there was frantic digging at the site of the first bombing run (3/19), and people were busting out the stretchers and shiet. "They" are confident that Saddam was one of those people carried out on a stretcher and into an ambulance. As of now, no one is sure whether he is dead or not.
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by dom93hatch
Well.

I think it was last night or this morning on the news... Some Fox reporter said that there was frantic digging at the site of the first bombing run (3/19), and people were busting out the stretchers and shiet. "They" are confident that Saddam was one of those people carried out on a stretcher and into an ambulance. As of now, no one is sure whether he is dead or not.
Yep. I heard that too. It is claimed that one of his sons, the oldest one, has defected to Jordan. But like you said, nobody knows. Hopefully something will come up soon which will let us know for sure if he's dead or alive. The closer we get to Baghdad, the more nervous I get.
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Slow-N-Low
Fact? What fact? Repeating the same vague claim over and over will never make it a fact. If you're denying that Ho had any contact with US officials during WWII, please provide something to substantiate your claim.
Now, who's putting words in whose mouth? I never did say that Minh never had contact with US officials during WWII. In fact, it is quite well known that he did. All I ever questioned, or pointed out, was how quick you were to place blame on the GOP leadership in dealing with Minh. I will give you the fact that Eisenhower or the US may have screwed him over when Vietnam was divided in 1954. However, Truman was President in 1945 when the US asked the French to reestablish its imperial control over Indochina. This occurred after Minh declared Vietnam's independence when Japan surrendered to the allies. This is the FACT that I have referred to.


Regardless of how you choose to redefine it, what you have been doing is attacking the person rather than the issue.
You can't be serious? This coming from you? That was no attack. However, your double-standard in this issue is so overwhelming it's unbelievable. Go back and look at some of the threads you've been involved in. You don't hesitate to attack, name-call, or label, but you are the first to whine and cry about it if someone says "boo" to you. DVPGSR pointed this out rather nicely with a post (in a different "on-topic" thread) that questioned your claim of following the golden rule and if YOU wanted to continue with the attacks.

BTW, my ability to accept truth has nothing to do with what I think of you or anyone else. Don't flatter yourself. You're not that important.

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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by dliske
Now, who's putting words in whose mouth? I never did say that Minh never had contact with US officials during WWII. In fact, it is quite well known that he did. All I ever questioned, or pointed out, was how quick you were to place blame on the GOP leadership in dealing with Minh. I will give you the fact that Eisenhower or the US may have screwed him over when Vietnam was divided in 1954. However, Truman was President in 1945 when the US asked the French to reestablish its imperial control over Indochina. This occurred after Minh declared Vietnam's independence when Japan surrendered to the allies. This is the FACT that I have referred to.




You can't be serious? This coming from you? That was no attack. However, your double-standard in this issue is so overwhelming it's unbelievable. Go back and look at some of the threads you've been involved in. You don't hesitate to attack, name-call, or label, but you are the first to whine and cry about it if someone says "boo" to you. DVPGSR pointed this out rather nicely with a post (in a different "on-topic" thread) that questioned your claim of following the golden rule and if YOU wanted to continue with the attacks.

BTW, my ability to accept truth has nothing to do with what I think of you or anyone else. Don't flatter yourself. You're not that important.

David Liske
come on guys, this thread is about saddam not anything you two are talking about. start another thread or let it go.
Old Mar 22, 2003 | 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by VRGNCD5
come on guys, this thread is about saddam not anything you two are talking about. start another thread or let it go.
Didn't know this was as strict as "on-topic." My apologies. I'll let it go.

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