Irony
If the GA law is anything like the law here, publicly accessible parking lots can't be treated like privately owned buildings when it comes to firearms in vehicles.
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yep. even if the property owner says you can't have guns there you can still have them in your vehicle according to that.
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HB 89 also contained a provision that the NRA aggressively pushed that prevented employers from banning employee guns from cars in the parking lot. Both provisions would come into play on Sunday morning.
Last edited by spanky; May 20, 2009 at 08:15 AM.
the way i read the story the manager was carrying the firearm ... that would imply he was in the store at the time / working with the firearm on him. as the property is private its the right of the owner to bar firearms from his building regardless of state / federal law
The only exception is if everyone who enters a building is searched or goes through a metal detector, say at a sporting event or concert. Then you can be found liable for carrying a firearm where it isn't allowed, as you should "have a reasonable expectation of safety" in a place where everyone is screened. The law understands that "no guns allowed" signs do not provide a reasonable expectation of safety.
We can also carry in a place that serves alcohol, and -- as near as I can tell-- there are no provisions banning the consumption of alcohol while carrying. Though I'm sure any jury wouldn't look favorably on a CCW holder drinking while carrying.
ahh gotcha.
Depends on the way the law is written. Here in CO, "no guns allowed" signs mean jack. The law gives you the right to carry no matter what the property owner has posted. The property owner is in his right to ask you to leave because you have a firearm, and if you refuse can get you on trespassing charges but not on gun charges.
The only exception is if everyone who enters a building is searched or goes through a metal detector, say at a sporting event or concert. Then you can be found liable for carrying a firearm where it isn't allowed, as you should "have a reasonable expectation of safety" in a place where everyone is screened. The law understands that "no guns allowed" signs do not provide a reasonable expectation of safety.
We can also carry in a place that serves alcohol, and -- as near as I can tell-- there are no provisions banning the consumption of alcohol while carrying. Though I'm sure any jury wouldn't look favorably on a CCW holder drinking while carrying.
The only exception is if everyone who enters a building is searched or goes through a metal detector, say at a sporting event or concert. Then you can be found liable for carrying a firearm where it isn't allowed, as you should "have a reasonable expectation of safety" in a place where everyone is screened. The law understands that "no guns allowed" signs do not provide a reasonable expectation of safety.
We can also carry in a place that serves alcohol, and -- as near as I can tell-- there are no provisions banning the consumption of alcohol while carrying. Though I'm sure any jury wouldn't look favorably on a CCW holder drinking while carrying.

it's a rule of the establishment to not have any firearms ... and the law does respect the rule of the establishment because if someone says no guns and you refuse to listen cops can arrest you ... rule of establishment trumps law of state in cases like this
on a side note, and really I guess its the moral of this story, I don't understand the idiots who think a "no guns" sign will deter criminals. Seriously? If criminals obeyed the rules, THERE WOULD BE NO CRIME IN THE FIRST PLACE.
you would absolutely surprised then at the number of people who truly believe that by creating "gun free" zones they are actually making themselves safer and preventing gun crime in those areas ... they forget criminals dont follow laws anyways
You'd be surprised how many people don't understand that. :rofl:
hence why i said RULE not LAW 
it's a rule of the establishment to not have any firearms ... and the law does respect the rule of the establishment because if someone says no guns and you refuse to listen cops can arrest you ... rule of establishment trumps law of state in cases like this

it's a rule of the establishment to not have any firearms ... and the law does respect the rule of the establishment because if someone says no guns and you refuse to listen cops can arrest you ... rule of establishment trumps law of state in cases like this
I'm only talking about Colorado laws here, using them as a contrast. I understand they aren't applicable to this case in GA. Our carry laws have specific wording that the only time you AREN'T allowed to carry is if electronic screening is in place, it's a Federal or State building, or it's a school.


