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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dubcac
I don't think comparing an action, something that happened and is indisputable, with a belief, is going to make a good argument about relative truths or absolute truths....they are completely different things.
Unless you are going off of eye witness accounts of it.

5 people see an accident and each sees something completely different though they saw the same accident. This has been shown many times over and entire studies have been done on it.
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
Unless you are going off of eye witness accounts of it.

5 people see an accident and each sees something completely different though they saw the same accident. This has been shown many times over and entire studies have been done on it.
A tree falling on a person? That's pretty indisputable.
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dubcac
I don't think comparing an action, something that happened and is indisputable, with a belief, is going to make a good argument about relative truths or absolute truths....they are completely different things.
I think you missed my point, absolute truths are also universal truth's, relative truth's and relative belief's are the same. Absolute meaning indisputable, relative meaning disputable based on belief/perception. By making the truth personal you have made it a belief, i.e. by adding a feeling.

Read everything again. It makes sense. Or you could be having a perception that you are right and I am wrong, in which I bow out because that is a battle that can not be won as we are both fighting on our own homecourt by our own set of rules and beliefs. Which means we are both right relativelyh:
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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is this a jesus thing
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dubcac
A tree falling on a person? That's pretty indisputable.
the relative truth in the second statement was that it was horrible, there was still an absolute truth in the statement but it was corrupted by the relative belief of it being horribleh:
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dubcac
A tree falling on a person? That's pretty indisputable.
The tree fell on a person is the reality of it, but then conjecture of eye witnesses comes into play.

seriously not trying to argue here but it is a psychological phenomenon that occurs in all of us when we see something happen and the way we interpret it.
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
The tree fell on a person is the reality of it, but then conjecture of eye witnesses comes into play.

seriously not trying to argue here but it is a psychological phenomenon that occurs in all of us when we see something happen and the way we interpret it.
Perspective, it's every situation action and reaction in our lives that has formed our world view and how we will interpret things.
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