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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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You're clearly more Palestinian than Canadian. And it's nice to see you resorting to name calling because you clearly don't have any ideas left to debate that hold any kind of merit. That's what ignorance does to people.

If you read all of your replies, none of the things you accused me of saying are even remotely close to what I said. Never called Palestine a terrorist state. Never said Israel had rights to anything but Israel. Never said Indians were "just good people".

I just don't think that an Ethnic group sponsored by ANSWER whose purpose is to stop wars and hate should be promoting ethnic cleansing. Whether it's one woman's opinion or not, it's reflective of all of those that organized the protest. Not Israel, not Palestine, and it doesn't belong in our streets. That's what started this. You can call me whatever you want, but you'll still be Canadian.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jafro
You're clearly more Palestinian than Canadian. And it's nice to see you resorting to name calling because you clearly don't have any ideas left to debate that hold any kind of merit. That's what ignorance does to people.

If you read all of your replies, none of the things you accused me of saying are even remotely close to what I said. Never called Palestine a terrorist state. Never said Israel had rights to anything but Israel. Never said Indians were "just good people".

I just don't think that an Ethnic group sponsored by ANSWER whose purpose is to stop wars and hate should be promoting ethnic cleansing. Whether it's one woman's opinion or not, it's reflective of all of those that organized the protest. Not Israel, not Palestine, and it doesn't belong in our streets. That's what started this. You can call me whatever you want, but you'll still be Canadian.
You called Gaza a terrorist state. You said that Native Americans (not idians stop calling htem that) wouldn't rage a war because they "Indians are willing to share the land because their spiritual belief is to respect all living things." unfotunatly that not true because they did go to war during the establishment of europeans.

and it's not the group ANSWER that promote Ethnic Clensing. It's some of it's members. Who made you important enought to decide what is reflective of all the people who organised the protest?

Who made you important enough to say things like "Indians are willing to share the land because their spiritual belief is to respect all living things. Muslims don't do that. Anyone not like them should be killed if you read the Quran."?

If that was remotly true you could be sure that the a Holy war would be alot bigger.

And what does being Candian have anything to do with it?
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 07:14 AM
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Let's not forget that when the UN made Israel a Jewish state, a lot of the Palestinians left on the advice of their Muslim neighbors. It was the thought that if Palestinians left the country, a lot of the infrastructure such as farming, would go by the wayside. It is tough to operate a country when most of its population leaves.

But the Palestinians were treated like garbage by their muslim neighbors, and tried to move back. Its like quitting your job when the company is under new management, and demanding it back 2 years later because the new company buried you in the mail room.

I agree with the others that this is conflict that has ensued for thousands of years where the Jewish people received ill treatment from Greeks, Romans, Christians, Muslims and others. And this conflict will continue on until religion dies or the human race becomes extinct. Plus, the US will never abandon Israel because it gives them a true ally in the Middle East
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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I can speak for Indians because my grandmother is 50% Navajo and that makes me at least 13%. I'm aware of Indian spiritual beliefs (which = religion and that's how that applies). I'm more American Indian than Barack is black, so if I want to call myself Indian, I'm allowed.

What being Canadian has to do with it is... the protest in this thread is in NYC, not Montreal. The one I referred to in FLA yesterday... nothing was done to correct that woman's view by that group or to denounce what she said, in fact ANSWER defended her and made no retractions from her inflammatory comments. Other palestinian protesters claimed it was free speech (throws shoes...). It was breaking news yesterday when I posted it and it was a hot topic in the news last night if you were paying attention.

Hamas is a terrorist organization [fact], and they have political control of Gaza [fact]. So tell me, what does that make Gaza? You accused me of calling Palestine a terrorist state and I did not say that. IMO, the Palestinian people do deserve food, medical supplies and not to being attacked. Just like the Israelis deserve to not be shelled, or have their children blown up by terrorists on busses. It's 60 years of violence that put the fences and blockades all over the west bank.

As far as the size of the holy war... it's just starting homey.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Tark
it was theirs 4000 years ago!!
Answer me this.

Your family has a valuable sentimental heirloom 4000 years ago that holds the history of your family, it is stolen and your family knows where it is 4000 years later. They are not entitled to take it back? If it's rightfully theirs and it was stolen...I have no beef with them reclaiming it.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TeggerLS
Answer me this.

Your family has a valuable sentimental heirloom 4000 years ago that holds the history of your family, it is stolen and your family knows where it is 4000 years later. They are not entitled to take it back? If it's rightfully theirs and it was stolen...I have no beef with them reclaiming it.
It's not the same. Back 4000 years ago there were crusades, territory wars, countries were not defined like it is today.

And i'm serious... does that mean that Greeks have the right to take over all of Europe again? Native Americans(jafro indians come from India, you are a Native American not because it's politicaly correct to say it that way) have the right to take Mahattan back? Or Mongols? ect???

What makes it different for Israel?
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TeggerLS
Answer me this.

Your family has a valuable sentimental heirloom 4000 years ago that holds the history of your family, it is stolen and your family knows where it is 4000 years later. They are not entitled to take it back? If it's rightfully theirs and it was stolen...I have no beef with them reclaiming it.
Yeah, but OJ was just busted for this... :dunno:

I don't want to give either side any credibility until the ethnic cleansing rhetoric stops on both sides. The tension is centuries old, but it's time for everyone to life in the here-and-now if there's going to be any resolutions. Until then, we should collect all the shoes and send them to Hati where they're needed.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Tark
It's not the same. Back 4000 years ago there were crusades...
Tark man... where are you getting your history? The crusades came twelve hundred years after Christianity, and Jesus died in 34 AD.

I know where you're coming from with the Indian thing, but African Americans call themselves things that are not politically correct, so... if I'm referring to myself, I don't see the harm.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jafro
Tark man... where are you getting your history? The crusades came twelve hundred years after Christianity, and Jesus died in 34 AD.

I know where you're coming from with the Indian thing, but African Americans call themselves things that are not politically correct, so... if I'm referring to myself, I don't see the harm.
Jafro... i aint your man. You think that I kill anyone that is different from me. You also beleive that Muslims are all the same. That we are not a people of tolerence. And you are the reason why so many Muslims hate the west...

And i used the trerm crusade as territory war.

And again about the indian thing it's not polically correct and etiquette i'm pointing out. Indians are from INDIA. You are referent to the Native population of North America. You can continu calling them Indians if you want. But then you continue using the wrong term to describe your own people.
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Old Jan 8, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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cheap Indians don't turn the heat on in my house.....like 18F no heat as*******es.
so if you raped a woman is her fault. you get to pick your wife and she can't denied you. women can't drive. I know a few and holy shit they are the most ignorant people and dumb people on the planet.
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