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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Context much. It's not dumb, it's exactly what millions of people wanth: I know the temple of rock is the third holiest mosque to the muslims, but the temple mount is Thee holiest to the Jews.

I didn't say they should just maybe they would. I wouldn't be surprised, everything is ready for the Jews to rebuild the temple for the 3rd time. The high priest crown is complete, building materials are secured, they are just waiting for the holy site, which just happens to be where the dome of rock sits. Are you seeing the puzzle a little clearer yet?
:werd: what this nikka said... its gonna happen eventually
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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i better not come in this thread anymore.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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i think both sides are fucked up

Israel needs to get the fuck out of Gaza with their illegal settlements, they openly defy international law to which they are members that forbid the settlements. they also have the palestineans in a defacto concentration camp of their own ... they do what they want to these people

as for Hamas, as far as i know it isnt a democratically elected group of any sort, they used force to oust the Palestinean authority and they continue to advocate violence as the only means to gain ground. they are the group that is supported by Iran and is supported by those who would like to see the entire jewish state destroyed

as far as i'm concerned this is a perfect example of where international peacekeepers should be deployed. stick em in the middle and tell both sides to shut the fuck up ... a couple decades of this is enough, a week doesnt go by where you hear something new yet still the same from this place
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JessTD
as for Hamas, as far as i know it isnt a democratically elected group of any sort, they used force to oust the Palestinean authority and they continue to advocate violence as the only means to gain ground. they are the group that is supported by Iran and is supported by those who would like to see the entire jewish state destroyed
I thought they stacked an election? I've also heard it was a coup. I think I'm missing a fact somewhere, but I'm not saying I'm deaf to their cause. It just doesn't make sense that a group demanding the eradication of Jews, Israel, and Western civilization should have any business asking for peace. How do you give a terrorist state sovereignty?

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as far as i'm concerned this is a perfect example of where international peacekeepers should be deployed. stick em in the middle and tell both sides to shut the fuck up ... a couple decades of this is enough, a week doesnt go by where you hear something new yet still the same from this place
So they're asking for an end to occupation, but occupation is the only solution? I want everyone to stop dying like the rest of the world does, but there have to be concessions to the genocide agenda that the Palestinians and Hamas are pushing for. I don't think the US should be involved, and I think the protests here are pointless.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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sigh :doh:
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jafro
I thought they stacked an election? I've also heard it was a coup. I think I'm missing a fact somewhere, but I'm not saying I'm deaf to their cause. It just doesn't make sense that a group demanding the eradication of Jews, Israel, and Western civilization should have any business asking for peace. How do you give a terrorist state sovereignty?



So they're asking for an end to occupation, but occupation is the only solution? I want everyone to stop dying like the rest of the world does, but there have to be concessions to the genocide agenda that the Palestinians and Hamas are pushing for. I don't think the US should be involved, and I think the protests here are pointless.
its split into two sides ... you still have the legitimate palestinian authority in the west bank, but the gaza strip was overrun by hamas ... they esentially kicked the the other group out and started up on their own because basicallythey dont want to negotiate with Israel and the PA was ... at least thats how i understand it

peacekeepers or occupiers ... whats worse? your enemy controlling your land or a third party creating a buffer zone and enforcing international law?

i'm just tired of Israel, all they do is stir shit over there. sure they aint got it easy but they are constantly the aggressors. oh lets bomb syria, lets bomb lebanon, lets send troops into lebanon, lets tackle the gaza strip ... hey by the way we are planning on how to attack iran ... yea cuz thats what we should do. they dont do it because of attacks on them, they do it cuz they want to. hey syria is building this we think, well lets bomb it. hey hezbollah is stationed in lebanon, well lets fuck lebanon up
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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just so you know, if the dome of the rock is destroyed and the temple rebuilt then the apocalypse is upon us.

some Christians believe that the temple will be reconstructed before, or concurrent with, the Second Coming of Christ
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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they also believe that jesus walked on water and turned water into wine and other such nonsense h:
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JessTD
i think both sides are fucked up

Israel needs to get the fuck out of Gaza with their illegal settlements, they openly defy international law to which they are members that forbid the settlements. they also have the palestineans in a defacto concentration camp of their own ... they do what they want to these people

as for Hamas, as far as i know it isnt a democratically elected group of any sort, they used force to oust the Palestinean authority and they continue to advocate violence as the only means to gain ground. they are the group that is supported by Iran and is supported by those who would like to see the entire jewish state destroyed

as far as i'm concerned this is a perfect example of where international peacekeepers should be deployed. stick em in the middle and tell both sides to shut the fuck up ... a couple decades of this is enough, a week doesnt go by where you hear something new yet still the same from this place
Point 1 i agree is both sides are fucked up.

But Hamas was elected by the Palestinian people. Mainly because of all the problems that the Palestinian people have been thru they thought that having a strong, recognized government would help them. I'm thinking a lot of voter now regret putting them in power.

Peacekeepers wont do jack dude. Israel is just too freaking strong... Muslims are just too hated in the West and European world to be defended. Palestine knows that this is the end of their country unless the international communities do something. Unfortunately they can't until the USA decides to finally step up against Israeli actions. that wont happen anytime soon... not with Obama's Cabinet that for sure.

The bottom line in this conflict is that the retaliation for mortars dropping on the settlers Israel uses tank, jets, they starve the Palestine population and cut the basic needs.

Today after 12 day of bombing and attacking Israel let humanitarian help in... For 3 hours!
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JessTD
they also believe that jesus walked on water and turned water into wine and other such nonsense h:
Hahahah. Those crazy Christians. All full of love, peace, and whatnot. No wonder Muslims hate the West.
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