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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/26128864.html

Local TV station tested the "hydrogen addon" (water to gas) thing i believe was posted here last week....check it out
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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Hmmm...trust the news or trust the manufacturer...tough call.

Remember...the manufacturer gave the news station the thing...And road conditions/speed are not identical. They should have gone to a nascar track and done the miles work there. That way you can have a control and an experiment.

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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Draconius
Hmmm...trust the news or trust the manufacturer...tough call.

Remember...the manufacturer gave the news station the thing...And road conditions/speed are not identical. They should have gone to a nascar track and done the miles work there. That way you can have a control and an experiment.
Yeah but you gotta realize that what they did is more similar to a "real world environment" that a consumer would generally encounter. If results can't be seen in a real world simulation, what is the point?
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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If this is in any way legit, the company should release bench test figures for their electrolysis unit.

At cruising speed, a 4 liter V6 consumes hundreds of cubic meters of air per minute.
I strongly doubt that a small, underhood unit can match even a fraction of that demand.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOtherDave™
If this is in any way legit, the company should release bench test figures for their electrolysis unit.

At cruising speed, a 4 liter V6 consumes hundreds of cubic meters of air per minute.
I strongly doubt that a small, underhood unit can match even a fraction of that demand.
I wonder how long each unit lasts also.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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With such claims, you'd think they were from Jupiter.




oh wait
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Draconius
I wonder how long each unit lasts also.
Hell, the whole thing is dubious.
The laws of thermodynamics can't be broken.

Also, the reporter described the electrolysis "cracker" as a fuel cell.

You may have seen these products on the internet or on some of the morning news shows. They are "add-on" hydrogen fuel cells that use water and your car's electrical system to boost gas mileage and reduce greenhouse emissions.
She could not be more wrong.

A fuel cell creates electricity using pure hydrogen, atmospheric oxygen and a proton exchange membrane.

An electrolytic hydrogen generator uses electricity to break H2O down to its elemental hydrogen and oxygen.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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I threw together an electrolysis setup a little bit ago to play with. You can definatly produce more than I would have guessed. But I doubt it's enough to make a major difference. From what I hear these guys are messing with their O2 sensors too. I don't know about you but it sounds like a big risk of running lean and melting pistons to me.

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