Notices
The Basement Non-Honda/Acura discussion. Content should be tasteful and "primetime" safe.

Mazdaspeed 3 first impressions

Thread Tools
 
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 06:17 PM
  #81  
98CoupeV6's Avatar
98CoupeV6
lots and lots of fail
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 23,004
Likes: 1
From: Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit
Default

Originally Posted by Llamaguy
rwd is always better. No burn outs just takes all the fun out of driving.

that and the whole handling things...
bah, i can do a mean 10 foot burnout in my FWD beast.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 06:19 PM
  #82  
RicoD's Avatar
RicoD
Pull my finger
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 41,423
Likes: 0
From: Arizona
Default

Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
bah, i can do a mean 10 foot burnout in my FWD beast.

E-Brake FTW :run:
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 06:20 PM
  #83  
98CoupeV6's Avatar
98CoupeV6
lots and lots of fail
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 23,004
Likes: 1
From: Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit
Default

Originally Posted by RicoD
E-Brake FTW :run:
That completely negates my low end torque.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 06:23 PM
  #84  
wedley2's Avatar
wedley2
bboy Wesley West
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 15,390
Likes: 0
From: six-five-o
Default

Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
bah, i can do a mean 10 foot burnout in my FWD beast.
one tire fires?
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 06:24 PM
  #85  
98CoupeV6's Avatar
98CoupeV6
lots and lots of fail
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 23,004
Likes: 1
From: Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit
Default

Originally Posted by wedley2
one tire fires?
No way dude, I light both them bitches up. Two halfshafts ftw.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:41 PM
  #86  
MrFatbooty's Avatar
MrFatbooty
Wannabe yuppie
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 25,918
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI
Default

Originally Posted by agent87
Actually Mazda supposedly programmed it so that engine output is linked to steering-wheel angle. h:
Quoting since nobody else responded.

And we both drive Miatas.

But yeah, since there's still an undercurrent of "torquesteer bad" going on, yeah, the car's engine management is in fact tuned to limit output based on steering angle and gear selected.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:57 PM
  #87  
Joe's Avatar
Joe
...
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 14,216
Likes: 0
From: Ottawa
Default

Looks like a fun little car.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 02:34 AM
  #88  
Llamaguy's Avatar
Llamaguy
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,301
Likes: 0
From: Indianapolis
Default

Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
Quoting since nobody else responded.

And we both drive Miatas.

But yeah, since there's still an undercurrent of "torquesteer bad" going on, yeah, the car's engine management is in fact tuned to limit output based on steering angle and gear selected.
so you're saying it sucks pretty much
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 10:47 AM
  #89  
agent87's Avatar
agent87
Need zzzzz's
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 3,386
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Llamaguy
so you're saying it sucks pretty much
No, I don't think so. Mazda just tried to minimize the torque steer problem.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 04:52 PM
  #90  
MrFatbooty's Avatar
MrFatbooty
Wannabe yuppie
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 25,918
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI
Default

Originally Posted by Llamaguy
so you're saying it sucks pretty much
Excerpted from the generally favorable Car & Driver review:

"As for the torque steer, Mazda knew it would be Oscar winning. So it wrote the engine-control software with a nuance that links the engine’s output with steering-wheel angle. Boot it with the front wheels centered, and you get the whole can of Spam. If the helm is turned a few degrees left or right, the computer backs off the throttle a couple of percentage points to relax the sideways tug on the nose. This car also comes with Super LSD, which we were dismayed to learn is perfectly legal. It’s the GKN-supplied mechanical limited-slip differential borrowed from the RX-8.
...
When the specs were revealed, my skeptical gland went into overdrive. These guys are gonna put 263 horsepower in a small front-drive car? Without having the thing snatch the steering wheel out of your hands every time you tramp on the gas? Uh-huh. Saab tried to make a manly virtue out of demonic torque steer with the Viggen. Yeah, it’s a little unruly, but keeping it pointed straight is half the fun. Hey, who needs it? But in this case it turns out my skepticism was unwarranted. Mazda seems to have shackled the torque-steer demon, pretty much, in a car that looks cool, drives hot, and is priced to go. Wow. How do you say GTI in Japanese?"
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:50 AM.