Islamic Fascism
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About internationnal actions everyone's opinions has a value. I dont give a fuck what Sarkozy does to his own country. I do however care if Frnace decided to invade a country. or wage war on a abstract thing that will never conclude anything.
And where did i say all americans are ignorant? that they ALL beleive Islam in the devil?
you're kidding me right? Pakistan (with one the most extremist government in the world) has joined forces with the US. They have a diplomatic agreement following the 9/11 attacks. Most Islamic country have conveid their sympathy following the attack. Tonnes of Islamic institutions do great things to help Women. look up foundation Like Aga Khan foundation. It's like the bigge NGO in the world. It builds hopitals, shcools, has many micro economic programs, help with women issues in places like Pakistan, Afganistan ect...
And where did i say all americans are ignorant? that they ALL beleive Islam in the devil?
you're kidding me right? Pakistan (with one the most extremist government in the world) has joined forces with the US. They have a diplomatic agreement following the 9/11 attacks. Most Islamic country have conveid their sympathy following the attack. Tonnes of Islamic institutions do great things to help Women. look up foundation Like Aga Khan foundation. It's like the bigge NGO in the world. It builds hopitals, shcools, has many micro economic programs, help with women issues in places like Pakistan, Afganistan ect...
Points taken. But there's some things you have to consider.
1) Pakistan is about to get cut off because they're not living up to their end of the bargain. They never have, and yet we continue sending them billions of dollars. I condemn Pakistan for what happened in Bombay.
2) It seems almost as though when big stuff goes down, all the other nations have to be asked to take an opinion. The US of A is the only buncha MF's that ever step up to the cause without having to be asked. It doesn't matter if it's a war or a natural disaster, the US is there as long as there's a crime against humanity. The UN is useless.
3) I recall most Eastern nations dancing on the streets on 9/11, not denouncing what happened. It takes a little more than simply saying you're against it when images of those celebrations come to mind. What did Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Israel, Egypt do to help the US after that?
4) Perhaps those Islamic institutions you mentioned would benefit from hiring a PR firm to exhibit the good they do to the masses... if it weren't for restrictions about spending money with non-Islamic U.S.-taxed institutions. I know that special mortgages exist because of those specific religious beliefs... so surely there's gotta be a way around that... If the good that islam is doing is put in the public eye, then maybe these opinions will fade over time? I think it would help, but what's the likelihood of that coming to fruition?
However... some have tried. See 5.
5) Stories like what happened to Aasiya Z. Hassan on US soil do horrific things to the opinions of the Western World. Honor killings don't show any respect nor love for women whatsoever. It's one thing to say that Islam teaches to love and respect women, but happenings like this one with people of that faith harden more opinions than just American's against those teachings. She set up a TV station to dispel Western prejudices against Eastern civilization, and was beheaded by her husband for filing for divorce. If you can defend that one, we'll never see eye to eye. The irony of this trajedy is just too heavy to carry. I don't know how this guy is still alive if it were against Islamic beliefs because there are plenty of Islamic people in US jails and justice is best served off the streets [Jeffrey Dahlmer]. Muzzammil's still alive.
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You don't have to be a structural engineer to see that a building simply doesn't fall like that because of a fire.
But hey if you need the opinion of an engineer how about Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth: http://www.ae911truth.org/
But naaah, they don't know what they're talking about, they're not as smart as you. :goodjob:
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look! someone made a website. it must be true!
seriously, joe, i can't tell if you're just baiting or not, but shut the fuck up with that nonsense. unless of course if you want people to think that you're a halfwit...
seriously, joe, i can't tell if you're just baiting or not, but shut the fuck up with that nonsense. unless of course if you want people to think that you're a halfwit...
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You lumped me into the big American stereotype earlier by essentially telling me I was the poster child of why Easterners hate Americans. You didn't say "some Americans". You said Americans. I can forgive you for that one.
Points taken. But there's some things you have to consider.
1) Pakistan is about to get cut off because they're not living up to their end of the bargain. They never have, and yet we continue sending them billions of dollars. I condemn Pakistan for what happened in Bombay.
2) It seems almost as though when big stuff goes down, all the other nations have to be asked to take an opinion. The US of A is the only buncha MF's that ever step up to the cause without having to be asked. It doesn't matter if it's a war or a natural disaster, the US is there as long as there's a crime against humanity. The UN is useless.
3) I recall most Eastern nations dancing on the streets on 9/11, not denouncing what happened. It takes a little more than simply saying you're against it when images of those celebrations come to mind. What did Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Israel, Egypt do to help the US after that?
4) Perhaps those Islamic institutions you mentioned would benefit from hiring a PR firm to exhibit the good they do to the masses... if it weren't for restrictions about spending money with non-Islamic U.S.-taxed institutions. I know that special mortgages exist because of those specific religious beliefs... so surely there's gotta be a way around that... If the good that islam is doing is put in the public eye, then maybe these opinions will fade over time? I think it would help, but what's the likelihood of that coming to fruition?
However... some have tried. See 5.
5) Stories like what happened to Aasiya Z. Hassan on US soil do horrific things to the opinions of the Western World. Honor killings don't show any respect nor love for women whatsoever. It's one thing to say that Islam teaches to love and respect women, but happenings like this one with people of that faith harden more opinions than just American's against those teachings. She set up a TV station to dispel Western prejudices against Eastern civilization, and was beheaded by her husband for filing for divorce. If you can defend that one, we'll never see eye to eye. The irony of this trajedy is just too heavy to carry. I don't know how this guy is still alive if it were against Islamic beliefs because there are plenty of Islamic people in US jails and justice is best served off the streets [Jeffrey Dahlmer]. Muzzammil's still alive.
Points taken. But there's some things you have to consider.
1) Pakistan is about to get cut off because they're not living up to their end of the bargain. They never have, and yet we continue sending them billions of dollars. I condemn Pakistan for what happened in Bombay.
2) It seems almost as though when big stuff goes down, all the other nations have to be asked to take an opinion. The US of A is the only buncha MF's that ever step up to the cause without having to be asked. It doesn't matter if it's a war or a natural disaster, the US is there as long as there's a crime against humanity. The UN is useless.
3) I recall most Eastern nations dancing on the streets on 9/11, not denouncing what happened. It takes a little more than simply saying you're against it when images of those celebrations come to mind. What did Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Israel, Egypt do to help the US after that?
4) Perhaps those Islamic institutions you mentioned would benefit from hiring a PR firm to exhibit the good they do to the masses... if it weren't for restrictions about spending money with non-Islamic U.S.-taxed institutions. I know that special mortgages exist because of those specific religious beliefs... so surely there's gotta be a way around that... If the good that islam is doing is put in the public eye, then maybe these opinions will fade over time? I think it would help, but what's the likelihood of that coming to fruition?
However... some have tried. See 5.
5) Stories like what happened to Aasiya Z. Hassan on US soil do horrific things to the opinions of the Western World. Honor killings don't show any respect nor love for women whatsoever. It's one thing to say that Islam teaches to love and respect women, but happenings like this one with people of that faith harden more opinions than just American's against those teachings. She set up a TV station to dispel Western prejudices against Eastern civilization, and was beheaded by her husband for filing for divorce. If you can defend that one, we'll never see eye to eye. The irony of this trajedy is just too heavy to carry. I don't know how this guy is still alive if it were against Islamic beliefs because there are plenty of Islamic people in US jails and justice is best served off the streets [Jeffrey Dahlmer]. Muzzammil's still alive.
2) the USA also supports countries that wages crimes against humanity. it shelters these countries. And dont go thinking the USA is the only country that gives a fuck. The problem is the US does whatever the fuck it wants and thats why so many othe the world population hate the US goverment.
3) dont beleive what the media shows you. Some were dancing in the street but certainly not the majority of the Islamic population
4) you dont understand islamic ways. You would not propose such a thing if you did understand the foundamentals of Islam.
5) i dont even know that story so i wont comment. but obviously it's 1 story. it's certainly not the first time a husban kills and beats his wife. :ibchrisbrown:
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1) Pakistan still tried. Their goverment is corupted like shit. And other countries have given some support to the USA. you do have to understand that it's hard for a country suport a a war on something that is too abstract. something that you will never achieve.
2) the USA also supports countries that wages crimes against humanity. it shelters these countries. And dont go thinking the USA is the only country that gives a fuck. The problem is the US does whatever the fuck it wants and thats why so many othe the world population hate the US goverment.
3) dont beleive what the media shows you. Some were dancing in the street but certainly not the majority of the Islamic population
4) you dont understand islamic ways. You would not propose such a thing if you did understand the foundamentals of Islam.
5) i dont even know that story so i wont comment. but obviously it's 1 story. it's certainly not the first time a husban kills and beats his wife. :ibchrisbrown:
2) the USA also supports countries that wages crimes against humanity. it shelters these countries. And dont go thinking the USA is the only country that gives a fuck. The problem is the US does whatever the fuck it wants and thats why so many othe the world population hate the US goverment.
3) dont beleive what the media shows you. Some were dancing in the street but certainly not the majority of the Islamic population
4) you dont understand islamic ways. You would not propose such a thing if you did understand the foundamentals of Islam.
5) i dont even know that story so i wont comment. but obviously it's 1 story. it's certainly not the first time a husban kills and beats his wife. :ibchrisbrown:
I disagree with your stance on Israel in #2 because I know that's what you're talking about, but you have your right to your own opinion. The people who commit crimes against humanity naturally will hate it when the US gets involved.
Number 5 you can't miss. This story happened like a week or 2 ago. It was terrible. The bitch chris brown beat up is still alive.
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