Originally Posted by
Jafro
You lumped me into the big American stereotype earlier by essentially telling me I was the poster child of why Easterners hate Americans. You didn't say "some Americans". You said Americans. I can forgive you for that one.
Points taken. But there's some things you have to consider.
1) Pakistan is about to get cut off because they're not living up to their end of the bargain. They never have, and yet we continue sending them billions of dollars. I condemn Pakistan for what happened in Bombay.
2) It seems almost as though when big stuff goes down, all the other nations have to be asked to take an opinion. The US of A is the only buncha MF's that ever step up to the cause without having to be asked. It doesn't matter if it's a war or a natural disaster, the US is there as long as there's a crime against humanity. The UN is useless.
3) I recall most Eastern nations dancing on the streets on 9/11, not denouncing what happened. It takes a little more than simply saying you're against it when images of those celebrations come to mind. What did Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Israel, Egypt do to help the US after that?
4) Perhaps those Islamic institutions you mentioned would benefit from hiring a PR firm to exhibit the good they do to the masses... if it weren't for restrictions about spending money with non-Islamic U.S.-taxed institutions. I know that special mortgages exist because of those specific religious beliefs... so surely there's gotta be a way around that... If the good that islam is doing is put in the public eye, then maybe these opinions will fade over time? I think it would help, but what's the likelihood of that coming to fruition?
However... some have tried. See 5.
5) Stories like what happened to Aasiya Z. Hassan on US soil do horrific things to the opinions of the Western World. Honor killings don't show any respect nor love for women whatsoever. It's one thing to say that Islam teaches to love and respect women, but happenings like this one with people of that faith harden more opinions than just American's against those teachings. She set up a TV station to dispel Western prejudices against Eastern civilization, and was beheaded by her husband for filing for divorce. If you can defend that one, we'll never see eye to eye. The irony of this trajedy is just too heavy to carry. I don't know how this guy is still alive if it were against Islamic beliefs because there are plenty of Islamic people in US jails and justice is best served off the streets [Jeffrey Dahlmer]. Muzzammil's still alive.
1) Pakistan still tried. Their goverment is corupted like shit. And other countries have given some support to the USA. you do have to understand that it's hard for a country suport a a war on something that is too abstract. something that you will never achieve.
2) the USA also supports countries that wages crimes against humanity. it shelters these countries. And dont go thinking the USA is the only country that gives a fuck. The problem is the US does whatever the fuck it wants and thats why so many othe the world population hate the US goverment.
3) dont beleive what the media shows you. Some were dancing in the street but certainly not the majority of the Islamic population
4) you dont understand islamic ways. You would not propose such a thing if you did understand the foundamentals of Islam.
5) i dont even know that story so i wont comment. but obviously it's 1 story. it's certainly not the first time a husban kills and beats his wife. :ibchrisbrown: