Islamic Fascism
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the problem is the world rarely acknowledges the fact that they receive the aid from the US. you have people in countries where the US has bases or interests sitting there protesting and telling the US to get out and not to come back, these people don't realize if the US left that so would large sums of money.
Giving aid is how world governments influence other governments ... point in case russia giving uzbek that 2.1 billion ... you know part of it was russia saying hey we give you all this money and you boot the americans from your airfield and our backdoor
thats just how it works. for countries to sit and piss on the US after accepting millions of dollars of aid is hypocritical. hey we want your money but dont tell us how we should spend it and dont expect us to like you or even talk to you, just give us your money and leave.
Giving aid is how world governments influence other governments ... point in case russia giving uzbek that 2.1 billion ... you know part of it was russia saying hey we give you all this money and you boot the americans from your airfield and our backdoor
thats just how it works. for countries to sit and piss on the US after accepting millions of dollars of aid is hypocritical. hey we want your money but dont tell us how we should spend it and dont expect us to like you or even talk to you, just give us your money and leave.
financial help also makes you the biggest enmy. The country to which you give the most financial aid one of the countries that creates the most problme for the middle east. That is where a big chunck of the problem comes from.
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Who exactly do you mean by the "countries"? Because as I told you before, middle-east governments aren't the same as the middle-east populations, its two seperate parts. The governments are asking for money yes, but the population ain't seeing a cent of that money US are sending. Like you said, the US gives the money for a reason. The reason is to keep the dictator regimes pressing their populations and not evar let them make opposition or revolution against them.
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what country are we talking about here? can you give me examples... i'm not disagreeing with you but what country are we atlaking about.
financial help also makes you the biggest enmy. The country to which you give the most financial aid one of the countries that creates the most problme for the middle east. That is where a big chunck of the problem comes from.
financial help also makes you the biggest enmy. The country to which you give the most financial aid one of the countries that creates the most problme for the middle east. That is where a big chunck of the problem comes from.
and the problem isnt governments who accept aid hating, its citizens of those countries who dont know and dont see the money because of their own governments.
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Who exactly do you mean by the "countries"? Because as I told you before, middle-east governments aren't the same as the middle-east populations, its two seperate parts. The governments are asking for money yes, but the population ain't seeing a cent of that money US are sending. Like you said, the US gives the money for a reason. The reason is to keep the dictator regimes pressing their populations and not evar let them make opposition or revolution against them.
give me one example of an oppressive regime that the US supports in a fashion that allows it to stay in control?
you are being hypocritical here in saying the US helps these regimes oppress their people.
saddam was one of the worst when it came to oppressive regimes, we went and stopped him and helped a new government form and you want to shit all over it. we dont do anything and merely accept and follow diplomatic channels and protest and you shit on us for not doing enough
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the way it seems to me, to be, is that we lose either way.
if we focus on our own problems, we're not doing enough because we're selfish. we're ignoring the plight of others.
if we do send help/aid/whatever, we're sticking our noses where it doesn't belong and/or we're doing it for our own special interests.
the US basically always does it wrong in every way according to every non-American.
like my wife's uncle... when we were in europe last october, i was talking to him about the state of the economy, the housing crisis, the banks, all that mumbo jumbo. he was preaching to me about how the US has to do things. how we're going socialist and that's how it has to be, it's the only way. capitalism is crap. yay socialism and so on. mind you, he's worked for an american company for at least all of his adult life, been paid in american dollars, and lives in basically a mansion compared to everyone else around him, which what the people around him live in could be considered shacks by some people's standards. in other words, capitalism gave him what he has, but it's crap, and yay socialism.
if we focus on our own problems, we're not doing enough because we're selfish. we're ignoring the plight of others.
if we do send help/aid/whatever, we're sticking our noses where it doesn't belong and/or we're doing it for our own special interests.
the US basically always does it wrong in every way according to every non-American.
like my wife's uncle... when we were in europe last october, i was talking to him about the state of the economy, the housing crisis, the banks, all that mumbo jumbo. he was preaching to me about how the US has to do things. how we're going socialist and that's how it has to be, it's the only way. capitalism is crap. yay socialism and so on. mind you, he's worked for an american company for at least all of his adult life, been paid in american dollars, and lives in basically a mansion compared to everyone else around him, which what the people around him live in could be considered shacks by some people's standards. in other words, capitalism gave him what he has, but it's crap, and yay socialism.
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the way it seems to me, to be, is that we lose either way.
if we focus on our own problems, we're not doing enough because we're selfish. we're ignoring the plight of others.
if you do send help/aid/whatever, we're sticking our noses where it doesn't belong and/or we're doing it for our own special interests.
the US basically always does it wrong in every way according to every non-American.
like my wife's uncle... when we were in europe last october, i was talking to him about the state of the economy, the housing crisis, the banks, all that mumbo jumbo. he was preaching to me about how the US has to do things. how we're going socialist and that's how it has to be, it's the only way. capitalism is crap. yay socialism and so on. mind you, he's worked for an american company for at least all of his adult life, been paid in american dollars, and lives in basically a mansion compared to everyone else around him, which what the people around him live in could be considered shacks by some people's standards. in other words, capitalism gave him what he has, but it's crap, and yay socialism.
if we focus on our own problems, we're not doing enough because we're selfish. we're ignoring the plight of others.
if you do send help/aid/whatever, we're sticking our noses where it doesn't belong and/or we're doing it for our own special interests.
the US basically always does it wrong in every way according to every non-American.
like my wife's uncle... when we were in europe last october, i was talking to him about the state of the economy, the housing crisis, the banks, all that mumbo jumbo. he was preaching to me about how the US has to do things. how we're going socialist and that's how it has to be, it's the only way. capitalism is crap. yay socialism and so on. mind you, he's worked for an american company for at least all of his adult life, been paid in american dollars, and lives in basically a mansion compared to everyone else around him, which what the people around him live in could be considered shacks by some people's standards. in other words, capitalism gave him what he has, but it's crap, and yay socialism.
as long as it only affects the everyone else but you it's good
