Hey everyone, just researching suspension a bit...

I've narrowed down my choices of a new car to either a 1998-2001 Acura Integra GS Coupe or a 1999-2002 Infiniti g20t.

Suspension/Handling and aftermarket suspension are my two biggest concerns, not stressing about straight line power too much.

I do a lot of mountain/canyon running with the intent to go auto-crossing and taking it to the track, so I'm trying to find something pretty good.

I was curious if anyone had the Eibach Pro-kit + Tokico's or KYB AGX setup.

And had any pictures of that drop, along with any personal reviews in terms of handling and having to dodge speed bumps and driveways. How often do you scrape, if at all?

Also what other things can you do?

Pickup a front strut bar from a GSR/Type-R? Or is there an aftermarket one? Rear Sway Bar? Some polyurathane bushings? Any kind of brake related stuff, anything that can be swapped from another Honda/Acura, or BBK, or just the usual, brembo blanks and better pads?

Thanks everyone!

 

If you're going to Auto-x for sure, I'd actually opt for a RWD car, but between the G20 and the Teg, go with the Teg. G20 is heavier; you want light, plus there are WAY more parts for Integras. Most any strut tower bar will work up front. I'd go for the R bar over the GSR one, but it definitely costs more. Rear swaybar is a must - go with the Comptech one; it is the best kit I've seen. I did th ITR sway on my former GSR and it worked out really well, probably the best single upgrade I did on it handling wise.

I don't know about on a Teg, but I have AGXs w/ Pro Kits on my 240SX and I'm really happy with it. The shocks allow for just the right amount of tuning front to rear, and allow you to quickly switch between really stiff for Auto-x and a little softer for the daily commute (if you want, I leave it tight even for the street). The springs give just enough stiffness while maintaining a good ride on the street.

 

off topic but whats the story behind a g20t? that name makes me think sr20det under the hood, being that they already put n/a sr's into the se-r sentras, and the fact that its an infinity and has a "t" at the end makes me think turbo... whats the deal with those cars?

 

To handle the OT question in short order....the T in G20t stood for "Touring". Nothing more.

All the G20 models used the N/A SR20DE.

The Touring model had slightly stiffer springs and rear sway bar.
It still didn't help the fact that they were far too heavy for the meager power output (±140hp, near 2900lbs curb weight).

Now, back to business. :run:

IMO, the decision is already made.
The 2nd gen G20 is overweight and underpowered.
It also suffers in that the G20 has a relatively small aftermarket following.

If your primary interest is auto-x, buy the DC4 Integra coupe.
Then, closely study your NASA or SCCA rulebook and choose your suspension upgrades so that you are competitive in your class.

I have a latent bias against Tokico given past experience on my last car. So I would favor the KYB AGX and either the Eibach springs or Ground Control coilover sleeves (since you're concerned about scraping).

As you continue to research the aftermarket, you'll find that the Integra has a nearly limitless market. From sway bars to bushings to brakes and all points in between, virtually everything is available for the DC Integra.

 

what a disappointment
the letter "t" on an automobile designation should be reserved for turbocharged cars only, so that we never have such confusion.

 

Since the naming of an automobile is not subject to approval by any government agency, it's highly unlikely that such a proposition would ever be implemented.

Besides, it's easier to pop the hood and look down.

Okay, back on track. h:

 

haha, good point. okay im done with my tangent nonsense for now. proceed as planned.

and to make an acutal contribution to this thread i'd say go with the integra, and the set up you plan to go with sounds good to me for autocrossing purposes. definitely get yourself a nice set of tires too, they dont have to be crazy, but get something from the ultra-high performance summer catagory. tires make a huge difference for autocross.

 

Yeah, I'm just up in the air though...

The only reason that the Infiniti g20t is crossing my mind are 3 reasons...

SR20DE + Mods = Hey!
Stock VSLD
I'm a Nissan kid at heart.

But yeah, it is underpowered, and the aftermarket is kinda small.

I'm thinking the Integra, well, out of the box, one of the best FWD handling cars, period, plus yeah, huge aftermarket, and to me, being able to rip it up in the mountains and canyons is more important than sticking with any particular maker.

Honestly, I've been thinking if I got an integra, just KYB AGX's, Eibach Pro-kit, a sway bar, front strut bar, and a either a CAI or brembo blanks and good pads all the way around. Knowing me, probably the brakes.

But what else am I missing in the suspension tuning? Polyurathane bushing kits? Generic cut and drop in bushings? Any other bars? Front Sway Bar? Rear Strut Bar?

I'm not entirely sure if it was the integra or not, but something about replacing the sunroof glass with a carbon fiber exact match to help lower the center of gravity. Anyone know what I'm talking about, or am I tripping?

 

If you're a Nissan kid, get a 240SX - RWD (which is a big plus), 50/50 weight distribution, semi-cheap used, and also has a sizeable aftermarket for suspension; not so much on the NA motor side. Not much you need to do to a stock KA24DE to make it fun though. It doesn't rev as easily as an SR20DE or have quite the power of a DET, but it is still a very good motor - torque + RWD = lots of fun.

Rear strut bar does help a little, but not enough to make a big difference. The ITR or Comptech sway out back works very well with the stock front bar, which is why the same one is used on the ITR. Sunroof = useless in a car for auto-x.

 

I had a 1998 Altima before some guy crashed into me, totaling it...

:'(

I know how fun the KA was, love the low end torque, which I realize, I'm going to be losing regardless where I go, for the most part.

But my suspension setup before had a huge tendency to oversteer, and I'm thinking RWD is going to make it happen that much more. Oversteer scares the crap out of me, I rather understeer personally which is why I've been looking at the better FWD cars.

I've thought of a 240, but, there's so many out there, I don't want to be another 240 kid, then again, a lot of Integra's too, which is also why I considered the g20, then again, part of me is saying, screw it, I'll take the best for what I'm looking for.

Just looking around this site and trying to figure things out...

Thanks everyone!