I've seen oxygen... in its liquid form

 

But the problem with that is that he/she has not been NOT proven. Bazing!

 

i cant say its completely BS. the problem lies in people (both believers and critics) literally translating every single passage and using it as evidence to either prove god's power & existence or inconsistencies & nonexistence. you have to remember that the people who wrote these books did not have the technology or the understanding that we do now. they had no other way of explaining what they saw or felt happen to them.

 

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Getting baked for them was a sign from the gods for all we know ( In fact, some religiosn are like this )

 

Yes, there is a lot of wrong or not quite accurate information. But without any doubt, 2 planes hit the world trade center. No accounts of the situation, that I've heard, discount that. There maybe 1000 books on it, but they all have at least some consistancy. Even things like an encyclopedia have wrong info or have been supplied bad info. But what most religions are basing their whole exsistance on is this one book. This one account of how things went down.

Our recording ability and accuracy is far far FAR superiour than that of people 2000 years ago, yet I do agree that it's not perfect. There's always that human element. But you can look back at records and find that days temperature, and when the last time it rained before 9/11. That's fact, it's not just someones impression of the day and when they last remembered rain and then that info was passed on and on and on and lost and changed and regained and lost and changed.

 

Without a doubt Jesus lived, walked the earth... spread his teachings and beleived he was there to spread the word of god. many people followed his teachings because they beleived that what he was saying was true. He did alot of good to the world. those are the facts( and mnay more)... now pen and teller can go and pick on different passges in the bible and prove them wrong but they are missing the point...they are not seeing the big picture if you will.
If in 2000 years we open books and looke at 9/11 one book might say it was a dc9 the other a 737 (just an example dont pick on that). if we look at those differences does it mean that it didnt happen at all... no we just proved that there are differences between what kind of plane is belleives to have crashed in the towers.


even if someone proves that the whole bible is bullshit does that mean that god doesn't exist? 1 has little to do with the other. jesus did live, there is no doubt about that, even the Quran says he did...

 

I think we need to clarify.

We cannot SEE oxygen, but we can test for it, measure it, and we know it's there. We can alter it, change it, bottle it up and sell it.

God on the other hand, is nothing more than an imaginary friend. There is no evidence, no proof, nothing to even suggest the actual exsistance of this thing outside of the bible. People? No, people got their information from the bible being passed on through the years.

Lets think, imagine for a min. Imagine there was no bible. Where would people even get this idea for a god from? What would prompt them to come up with this "god"? Why would they? I mean, breathing, you can at least see someone doing it. You can then assume that they are breathing the air, sure you don't know all the details of it but you can at least identify a baseline of where someone would have first noticed it. But god... this is just made up being in peoples heads, a catchall for unexplained things. The devil, is the catchall for the bad things that happen, or at least the things that people don't want to happen. It's just bullshit.

 

Lots of people have lived. Lots of people have said they are the lord. Lots of people say the exact same thing. Lots of people have claimed to be something they are not, we call them crazy! Other than some historical bible type references, there's no proof of this person named jesus. Other than the guy down the street that steals hubcaps from cars. h:

 

dude you are not thinking of god when you are saying that... The bible onyl affect chritians not every religion. there are alot of religion in the world and most beleive in a god right... so wether the bible is bullshit or not, doesn't mean that god doesnt or does.

 

true enough story h: