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Entry In the scene where everyone gathers around Brian's car, and they are looking under the hood and asking questions; two problems arise. An actual turbo is nowhere in sight, nor a frontmount large enough to handle the immense number of pounds he claims to be pushing. Later he quotes that he spent around 4,000 to 5,000 dollars to turbo a non turbo car. Try around 15,000 when all is said and done, to turbo the exact same car. [Turbos can be placed under or behind the engine, therefore it may not be visible. Prices for installing a turbo vary greatly, and 4-5000 dollars is not unreasonable considering he worked at a parts supply store (employee discount alone is often 50% off retail, sometimes more) and if he did some or all of the work himself, there is little to no labor costs for an install. I can buy a turbo for my non-supercharged Grand Prix for around $1400 and installation would only be about another $1000 - 1600. This is for a V-6 engine, and includes an intercooler. If I rebuilt the entire engine, having a shop do all the work, and have the turbo kit installed, I would be paying about $6500. Parts can be more for an import, but still 4-5000 for a turbo doesn't sound unreasonable.]
Entry In the first hijacking, one of the Honda Civics darts under the big rig to dodge the road crew. There is no such thing as a trailer with six feet of clearance, three feet is more likely. It is very obvious that there are large supports over both axles to raise the entire trailer and make this stunt possible. [6 feet of clearance was not required. I'm 5'8" and stand a good foot and a half taller than any Honda Civic, especially one which has been lowered and sits on low profile tires.]
Entry During the first hijacking scene, the hijacker shoots a dart through the glass and into the seat. Some kind of wire or equipment comes out of the truck when he pulls out the window, and it is there in the next shot, but has vanished in the following shot. [The first dart goes through the glass and expands. He uses it to pull the windshield out then shoots another one into the seat to use as a safety wire when he climbs into the truck. This is more evident in the scene where Vince gets caught up in his wire after being shot.] Corrected by EMTurbo
Entry When Dom drags Brian in the Charger, when he does the wheelie, if you pause it at the right moment you can see the wheelie bar coming out of the back. [I have looked at this part in slow motion and using frame by frame, I cannot see any bars coming out the back, or underneath of the car, all you see is smoke from the tires.]
Entry When Brian looses the race against Dom, Dom states that Brian didn't know how to drive and was 'granny shifting' instead of 'double clutching like you're supposed to'. Double clutching is NEVER done in drag racing as it requires twice as much time to shift and is ONLY done when down-shifting. It is used to synch the engine RPM with the speed of the wheels but new cars have syncros that do it for the driver. [You are absolutely correct about double clutching, however I think you misunderstood the way Dom said it. When he said this to Brian he was referring to when Brian was coming back to the start after the drag. You'll notice that when Brian's coming to a stop, he is not double clutching when he's down-shifting.]
Entry The scene starts at 38:12 on the dvd when a tow truck backs in next to Toretto's shop and Brian presents Dom and the team with his new car the one that's all burned up. Notice there is a little black import inside the shop, and the tow truck is blocking the entry to the shop. The shot goes overhead looking down at the burned up car and it's all of a sudden inside the shop facing out and no tow truck, the next shot is from inside the car and you can see it's inside the shop, the next shot is from behind the burned up car facing out and you can see the little black import is outside. [They moved the black car outside to put the Supra (the burned up car) in the garage. Some time could have passed between the shot of the Supra on the truck and the Supra in the garage.]
Entry There's a scene after the credits - you see what happens to Dom.
Entry In the scene where Brian and Toretto pull in at Little Saigon with Tran's gang, you see Tran take off his helmet, his cousin Lance and everybody else. As Lance gets off his bike and holster his weapon, you see a female biker standing next to him, but as Lance gets his weapon and points it at Brian, she disappears. She appears and re-appears from shot to shot. [The girl was far away enough from Lance that she wasn't seen in the shot. No mistake there.]
Entry In the shot when Dom arrives at the first street race, you see him open his door to get out. The volume level of his car stereo increases, and after he closes the door it decreases. In fact, the driver's window is down the whole time as you can see Dom's fingers curl through the window frame to close the door. The volume level should have remained constant. [Not necessarily true. Many cars have speakers built into the driver's and passenger side door and when open will sound louder than closed as the bulk of the sound is no longer being directed to the inside of the car.]
Entry In the DVD edition, Rob Cohen tells the viewer that the racers don't have rear view mirrors in their cars, because they don't have time to look at them; but in the first race Brian pulls out laptops, presses buttons, reads graphs, all of which are on the passenger seat! [The laptops, buttons and graphs are used by Brian to see how the car is performing, it gives him an idea of when to use nitro and other boosts. Since he has all these to keep an eye on while driving as fast as possible he doesn't have time to look in a rear mirror. Same for the other drivers.]
Entry In the first race, with Dom, Brian, Ja Rule, and the Asian guy, the Asian guy was an actual champion street racer. [The Asian guy is not an actual champion street racer. His name is RJ De Vera and he is a developer of RO_JA wheels for race cars.]
Entry Nitrous oxide is not activated like a turbo boost on a video game. You switch it on before the start of a race and it is activated at a specific throttle position. Drag racing isn't a chess game where you have to trick the other driver as the last second to win. [The button on the steering wheel is used to activate the nitrous system's second stage. Brian does in fact receive a notice that stage one is complete.]
Entry In the scene where Jesse is looking at Brian Spilner's engine, he says "I see a cool-air intake, it's got a NOS fogger system, the T4 turbo, Dominic. I see a AIC controller, it has direct port nitrous injection..." You would not have this on any NOS or N2o setup. It would be either/or. [The submission isn't clear as to what the either/or is, but I will assume that it is having a NOS fogger with direct port nitrous. Brian had two stages of nitrous which were activated by the two buttons on his steering wheel. One could be a fogger and the other a direct port system.]
Entry In the beginning race, they mention blowing the welds off of the manifolds. If you know your metals and car parts, any manifold (intake or exhaust) that has welds has usually been damaged in the past and the weld is a quick fix. They are usually made by casts and no welds are used in making them. [Most aftermarket exhaust headers are welded and it is likely that a high performance vehicle like Brian's would have aftermarket exhaust headers.]
Entry After Brian checks on Tran who dies from falling off the bike, he looks up the hill to see Dom's Charger. Dom drives off and you see that only the passenger side wheel spins, indicating that the car doesn't have a limited-slip-differential. Later when Brian drags Dom on the approach to the trainline, both of the Charger's wheels spin which would need a limited-slip-differential otherwise, only the wheel with the least grip would spin. [Dom's Charger could be equipped with a locker differential that is activated from the driver's seat. These are used to improve performance during drag races but can be turned off for normal driving.]
Entry When Brian is in the street race, with Dom, Ja Rule, and that Asian kid. He blows off his floor panel. How does stressing an engine blow off the floor panel? And furthermore, after stage one blows his engine, the engine should seize and the car should stop dead. [If you listen at the end of the race Dom says he just fried piston rings and not blown the engine.]
Entry When we first see Brian's Ford truck, the grill has no Ford emblem on it, but later when we see the truck hauling all the parts to rebuild the car he gave to Turetto, the Ford emblem is on the grill. [The Ford emblem is always on the grill in every scene of the movie.]
Entry In the beginning where the green car spins out, he starts by clutching out and puts the car into first gear. He then completely releases the clutch and accelerates. This would cause any car to stall - you need to clutch in slowly in first gear. [If the author of this submission knew anything about how to drive a manual transmission, he would know that Brian is dumping the clutch to launch the car. You can hear him rev to about 4000rpms and dumping the clutch. This may cause wheelhop on a fwd vehicle but he will definitely not stall.]
Entry When Brian gets his new car the hood scoops have no grills over them but when he goes to race wars they have grills. [The grills are always there, but they are more obvious in the strong overhead light evident during Race Wars.] Corrected by Phoenix
Entry Towards the end of the film where Bryan and Dom are chasing the dirtbikes, Dom hits one bike with the back of his car and the bike goes to the left, yet in the next shot, the bike flies off the hill towards the right. [Dom hits the rear wheel, forcing it to the left and similarly jolting the rider. Thus, the bike turns to the right and flies off the road.]
Entry In the first hijacking, one of the Honda Civics darts under the big rig to dodge the road crew. There is no such thing as a trailer with six feet of clearance, three feet is more likely. It is very obvious that there are large supports over both axles to raise the entire trailer and make this stunt possible. [6 feet of clearance was not required. I'm 5'8" and stand a good foot and a half taller than any Honda Civic, especially one which has been lowered and sits on low profile tires.]
Entry During the first hijacking scene, the hijacker shoots a dart through the glass and into the seat. Some kind of wire or equipment comes out of the truck when he pulls out the window, and it is there in the next shot, but has vanished in the following shot. [The first dart goes through the glass and expands. He uses it to pull the windshield out then shoots another one into the seat to use as a safety wire when he climbs into the truck. This is more evident in the scene where Vince gets caught up in his wire after being shot.] Corrected by EMTurbo
Entry When Dom drags Brian in the Charger, when he does the wheelie, if you pause it at the right moment you can see the wheelie bar coming out of the back. [I have looked at this part in slow motion and using frame by frame, I cannot see any bars coming out the back, or underneath of the car, all you see is smoke from the tires.]
Entry When Brian looses the race against Dom, Dom states that Brian didn't know how to drive and was 'granny shifting' instead of 'double clutching like you're supposed to'. Double clutching is NEVER done in drag racing as it requires twice as much time to shift and is ONLY done when down-shifting. It is used to synch the engine RPM with the speed of the wheels but new cars have syncros that do it for the driver. [You are absolutely correct about double clutching, however I think you misunderstood the way Dom said it. When he said this to Brian he was referring to when Brian was coming back to the start after the drag. You'll notice that when Brian's coming to a stop, he is not double clutching when he's down-shifting.]
Entry The scene starts at 38:12 on the dvd when a tow truck backs in next to Toretto's shop and Brian presents Dom and the team with his new car the one that's all burned up. Notice there is a little black import inside the shop, and the tow truck is blocking the entry to the shop. The shot goes overhead looking down at the burned up car and it's all of a sudden inside the shop facing out and no tow truck, the next shot is from inside the car and you can see it's inside the shop, the next shot is from behind the burned up car facing out and you can see the little black import is outside. [They moved the black car outside to put the Supra (the burned up car) in the garage. Some time could have passed between the shot of the Supra on the truck and the Supra in the garage.]
Entry There's a scene after the credits - you see what happens to Dom.
Entry In the scene where Brian and Toretto pull in at Little Saigon with Tran's gang, you see Tran take off his helmet, his cousin Lance and everybody else. As Lance gets off his bike and holster his weapon, you see a female biker standing next to him, but as Lance gets his weapon and points it at Brian, she disappears. She appears and re-appears from shot to shot. [The girl was far away enough from Lance that she wasn't seen in the shot. No mistake there.]
Entry In the shot when Dom arrives at the first street race, you see him open his door to get out. The volume level of his car stereo increases, and after he closes the door it decreases. In fact, the driver's window is down the whole time as you can see Dom's fingers curl through the window frame to close the door. The volume level should have remained constant. [Not necessarily true. Many cars have speakers built into the driver's and passenger side door and when open will sound louder than closed as the bulk of the sound is no longer being directed to the inside of the car.]
Entry In the DVD edition, Rob Cohen tells the viewer that the racers don't have rear view mirrors in their cars, because they don't have time to look at them; but in the first race Brian pulls out laptops, presses buttons, reads graphs, all of which are on the passenger seat! [The laptops, buttons and graphs are used by Brian to see how the car is performing, it gives him an idea of when to use nitro and other boosts. Since he has all these to keep an eye on while driving as fast as possible he doesn't have time to look in a rear mirror. Same for the other drivers.]
Entry In the first race, with Dom, Brian, Ja Rule, and the Asian guy, the Asian guy was an actual champion street racer. [The Asian guy is not an actual champion street racer. His name is RJ De Vera and he is a developer of RO_JA wheels for race cars.]
Entry Nitrous oxide is not activated like a turbo boost on a video game. You switch it on before the start of a race and it is activated at a specific throttle position. Drag racing isn't a chess game where you have to trick the other driver as the last second to win. [The button on the steering wheel is used to activate the nitrous system's second stage. Brian does in fact receive a notice that stage one is complete.]
Entry In the scene where Jesse is looking at Brian Spilner's engine, he says "I see a cool-air intake, it's got a NOS fogger system, the T4 turbo, Dominic. I see a AIC controller, it has direct port nitrous injection..." You would not have this on any NOS or N2o setup. It would be either/or. [The submission isn't clear as to what the either/or is, but I will assume that it is having a NOS fogger with direct port nitrous. Brian had two stages of nitrous which were activated by the two buttons on his steering wheel. One could be a fogger and the other a direct port system.]
Entry In the beginning race, they mention blowing the welds off of the manifolds. If you know your metals and car parts, any manifold (intake or exhaust) that has welds has usually been damaged in the past and the weld is a quick fix. They are usually made by casts and no welds are used in making them. [Most aftermarket exhaust headers are welded and it is likely that a high performance vehicle like Brian's would have aftermarket exhaust headers.]
Entry After Brian checks on Tran who dies from falling off the bike, he looks up the hill to see Dom's Charger. Dom drives off and you see that only the passenger side wheel spins, indicating that the car doesn't have a limited-slip-differential. Later when Brian drags Dom on the approach to the trainline, both of the Charger's wheels spin which would need a limited-slip-differential otherwise, only the wheel with the least grip would spin. [Dom's Charger could be equipped with a locker differential that is activated from the driver's seat. These are used to improve performance during drag races but can be turned off for normal driving.]
Entry When Brian is in the street race, with Dom, Ja Rule, and that Asian kid. He blows off his floor panel. How does stressing an engine blow off the floor panel? And furthermore, after stage one blows his engine, the engine should seize and the car should stop dead. [If you listen at the end of the race Dom says he just fried piston rings and not blown the engine.]
Entry When we first see Brian's Ford truck, the grill has no Ford emblem on it, but later when we see the truck hauling all the parts to rebuild the car he gave to Turetto, the Ford emblem is on the grill. [The Ford emblem is always on the grill in every scene of the movie.]
Entry In the beginning where the green car spins out, he starts by clutching out and puts the car into first gear. He then completely releases the clutch and accelerates. This would cause any car to stall - you need to clutch in slowly in first gear. [If the author of this submission knew anything about how to drive a manual transmission, he would know that Brian is dumping the clutch to launch the car. You can hear him rev to about 4000rpms and dumping the clutch. This may cause wheelhop on a fwd vehicle but he will definitely not stall.]
Entry When Brian gets his new car the hood scoops have no grills over them but when he goes to race wars they have grills. [The grills are always there, but they are more obvious in the strong overhead light evident during Race Wars.] Corrected by Phoenix
Entry Towards the end of the film where Bryan and Dom are chasing the dirtbikes, Dom hits one bike with the back of his car and the bike goes to the left, yet in the next shot, the bike flies off the hill towards the right. [Dom hits the rear wheel, forcing it to the left and similarly jolting the rider. Thus, the bike turns to the right and flies off the road.]
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From: In a place called Hell
Originally Posted by ED9man
It only makes that cool sound if you shift really fast, and without using the clutch or lifting off the gas, if it makes a loud grinding sound and doesn't go into gear that means you aren't shifting hard enough or fast enough, don't be afraid to throw you whole body into the shift, maybe even two hands. 
Ahhh man, I laughed so much I lost my high. Bummer!
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Originally Posted by zma21
Welcome to han Enigma. I doubt you will be returning. :hsd:
Seriously... These guys are dicks... I knew it was a stupid question, but wanted to know if it was possible. Whatever though..
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Originally Posted by carta79
:lmao: I haven't had a good laugh in a long time, thanks. Yeah good luck trying to get those 1/4 times. You must be a good driver.
Dont understand what your saying.... Ive tested my 0-60, and ive been to the track and ran a 15.5 . Im actually a crappy driver, and if a good driver hopped in my car, im sure he could run a 15.0.
Unless you guys were being sarcastic, those times aren't that great.
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From: Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit
Originally Posted by Enigma_LS
Seriously... These guys are dicks... I knew it was a stupid question, but wanted to know if it was possible. Whatever though..
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From: michigan
Originally Posted by Enigma_LS
Seriously... These guys are dicks... I knew it was a stupid question, but wanted to know if it was possible. Whatever though..
