That or any other bike for that matter. The damaged pic doesnt suggest he was going 200mph.

 

is PA, I think there is no law there for helmet. dumb state

 

Courtesy espn.com:

PITTSBURGH -- Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was badly hurt in a motorcycle crash Monday and undergoing surgery. The extent of his injuries was not known.



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Roethlisberger was in serious but stable condition, said Dr. Larry Jones, chief of trauma at Mercy Hospital.



"He was talking to me before he left for the operating room," Jones said before the operation. "He's coherent. He's making sense. He knows what happened. He knows where he is. From that standpoint, he's very stable."

One Steelers source told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that Roethlisberger was in surgery for a broken jaw, an injury that can take approximately seven weeks to heal. The Steelers season starts in 12 weeks.



The 24-year-old Roethlisberger likes to ride without a helmet, a habit that once prompted coach Bill Cowher to lecture him on the dangers.

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported that Roethlisberger wasn't wearing a helmet. The Associated Press reported it wasn't clear whether he was wearing a helmet or not.



The crash happened at an intersection at the edge of downtown at about 11:30 a.m. A pool of blood was still visible there by early afternoon.



Police spokesman Lt. Kevin Kraus said police and homicide units were investigating the crash, something standard when there is an accident with critical injuries. Kraus would give no details on the extent of Roethlisberger's injuries or if anyone else was injured.

The accident occurred on Second Avenue near the intersection of 10th Street in Pittsburgh, around 11:30 a.m. The route is one often taken in traveling to the Steelers' facility in the Southside section of the city.

Steelers backup quarterback Charlie Batch was at the emergency room. He had no comment.



A silver Chrysler New Yorker with damage to the front passenger fender was removed and Roethlisberger's bike was loaded onto a flatbed truck. Police were detouring traffic around the crash scene as onlookers and media gathered.


One of his agents, Ryan Tollner, is in route to Pittsburgh for what was supposed to be a pre-planned trip and will arrive later Monday.

In only his second year in the NFL, Roethlisberger became the youngest quarterback to lead a team to the Super Bowl championship. He was 23 when he did it last February.



Roethlisberger has said in the past that he prefers not to wear a helmet. He has pointed out Pennsylvania's 35-year-old state law requiring helmets to be worn was amended to make helmets optional.



In May 2005, Cowher warned him about safe riding after Cleveland tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. was injured in a motorcycle accident. Winslow tore knee ligaments and was lost for the season.



"He talked about being a risk-taker and I'm not really a risk-taker. I'm pretty conservative and laid back, but the big thing is to just be careful," Roethlisberger said at the time. "I'll just continue to be careful. I told him we don't ever ride alone, we always ride in a group of people, and I think it makes it even more safe."



Roethlisberger continued to ride after Winslow's accident and that angered Terry Bradshaw, who quarterbacked the Steelers to four Super Bowl victories during the 1970s.



Visiting the Steelers' training camp last summer, Bradshaw remarked: "Ride it when you retire."

 

The Steelers were 27 - 4 with him, including the postseason.

How again is that overrated? :eh:

 

They're a running team, throw just about any QB in there and they would've succeeded.

 

You ever played the game of football?

His passing yards are very close to that of Donovan McNabb.

 

This is exactly why I say he's overrated. You're pulling this stat of 27-4, yet you don't seem to realize the dynamic of the team is a stellar defense and a strong running game. And yet, somehow, Roethlisberger gets most of the credit. I wasn't saying he wasn't good, I was saying he's overrated. And its true.

 

The running back isn't running the game, he is.

 

The running game isn't orchestrated by the QB. He hands the ball off in a manner most fitting for the half/full/running back and watches the play, applying a block if absolutely necessary (and if they have the balls). A corrdinated offensive line is the core of the running game. If you think any different, I pity you.

 

you can have a great running game, but the threat of an accurate passer keeps the defense guessing. I saw this in Chicago all last season ... no QB = 1 dimensional offense = no points.

He could be overrated, but he's good enough to win games.