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Old May 2, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by useless
About the restrictor plate, you're pretty much totally wrong but nice try. They use restrictor plates at tracks like Talladega or Daytona to keep the speeds down so no one dies if there is a crash. Without the plates the cars would be going well over 200 mph and hitting a wall at the speed is going to kill you reguardless of the cage you have.
do i believe your opinion or Jeff Gordon's...oh...the plates are used for all races not just Talladega and Daytona...I also watch several Nascar races each season and even commentators make note of the use of restrictor plates to even the engine maker playing field

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So why doesn't NASCAR make this simple change? Who knows. Instead they implement the most bizarre set of rules in auto racing history. We now restrict speeds by putting metal carburetor plates on intake barrels, and we place spoilers on trunk decks to stabilize cars and prevent them from becoming airplanes. This serves to reduce speeds and improve the handling characteristics of cars. But smaller engines reduce speeds, and better handling isn't needed at slower speed. Today's rules make all the cars run the same speed. It takes the engine builders and chief mechanics out of the game. To a large extent it even takes drivers out of the game. We now run in a 20 car draft. Not a bad idea if NASCAR had 20 professional drivers. Unfortunately they don't. But fear not, neither does the Indy circuit or Formula 1. The truth is there are at any given time about 15 pros on the circuit. Oh sure they are all pros. So are the Class A Columbia Bombers, but they are a long way from their major league counterparts, and there is a big difference between the driving ability of Jeff Gordon and Brett Bodine. In a 20 car draft there are at least five drivers that should still be driving short tracks. Problem is, a 15 car race is not too exciting, so 40 or so cars are allowed to "make the field." Twenty five can't win, but they all get a shot, and frankly wrecks are part of the reason people go to stock car races. More cars, more wrecks, more ticket sales. It's the American way.
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Old May 2, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jaje
do i believe your opinion or Jeff Gordon's...oh...the plates are used for all races not just Talladega and Daytona...I also watch several Nascar races each season and even commentators make note of the use of restrictor plates to even the engine maker playing field

http://www.gordonline.com/beyond/071301.html
You for got this part "By Steve Samples", not Jeff Gordon. An editorial about plates that says what i was saying. Ok. They use plates to slow cars down. But like i said before they only use them at Talledega and Daytona. NASCAR isn't the only group to use devices to restrict airflow into a motor to lower horsepower though, check out cars that race in the 24 Le Mans. Hell even the WRC cars run FIA mandated intake restrictors. Then there are groups like the Speed World Challenge who add weight to cars that win to slow them down for closer racing.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 06:44 AM
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what i loved about wrc these past couple years is subaru and mitsubishi getting their asses whipped by the hatches of citreon, pugeot, and ford. :chuckle:
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Old May 3, 2006 | 06:46 AM
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do they even cover lemans anymore? i noticed that every time i turn it there it's some classic car show or nascar. i miss the old speed.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by useless
You for got this part "By Steve Samples", not Jeff Gordon. An editorial about plates that says what i was saying. Ok. They use plates to slow cars down. But like i said before they only use them at Talledega and Daytona. NASCAR isn't the only group to use devices to restrict airflow into a motor to lower horsepower though, check out cars that race in the 24 Le Mans. Hell even the WRC cars run FIA mandated intake restrictors. Then there are groups like the Speed World Challenge who add weight to cars that win to slow them down for closer racing.

^Werd! Would you feel better if nascar added 1000lbs to the cars at the superspeedways instead of a plate?

You can wish all you want for Speed to change, but it boils down to 1 thing $$. X amount of people watch WRC, 10 times X amount will watch some nascar news show. More viewers = more $$ for commercial spots. I'm a huge nascar fan, but I too would like to see fewer weekly shows about it on Speed. How many times can you recap the race from sunday? And I can keep up with all the team, rule, etc.. changes from the commentators on Sunday instead of hearing about it 5 days during the week. I think Nascar could justify their own channel 24/7.

Unique whips is a waste of a show. I know 10 shops in Atlanta that can do what they do. Wheels, ice, tint, and sometimes send it off to a body shop for paint.

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