Hostel
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From: My own level of hell
Originally Posted by RB26DETT
how is the violence unneccesary? (fuck i think i botched that word).
it seemed like it wanted to shock the audience with the gore. it did its job.
it seemed like it wanted to shock the audience with the gore. it did its job.
The point of slashers is to shock you but there still has to be content to make it believable even if you are using the supernatural. Look at 13 Ghosts for example, the ghosts were bound by metaphysical law which was the glass containment system that was built and engraved with the writings of ancient bonds. When they were released people did not just suddenly explode nor could they attack the humans through the containment cells they were in. Once freed they attacked with what would be concluded as logical choice of instruments. The nail guy attacked with a spike and hammer, the drowning woman attacked with her hands (claws), and it was logical because it was how these people died or what they had with them at their disposal as well as the set boundaries...it was consistent and it had substance; which by the way is rare for a mainstream horror movie with star actors to actually do.
So what I am saying is that if you start movie and give no background, then you enter a guy with a chainsaw to clear out a room of high school kids attending prom, you are left with a gaping hole and nothing but attempted shock value with no buildup to the shock.
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From: My own level of hell
Originally Posted by Joe_Hard
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Nightshade, use the EDIT button. The rampant double posting is unnecessary.
If you need good scary movies definately check out:
[Recent]
Hostel
High Tension
Saw I (& II?)
Cube (imo this was a very good movie although they made 3 I think #2 is the best.)
The Jacket (not terrifying but extremely interesting)
8MM (avg for some, great for others)
28 Days Later
Also one of my friends told me he watched a movie called "Salo: The 120 Days of Sodom" and it was the scariest most disturbing picture he's ever seen. If anyone has seen this movie let me know I haven't found it at any local videorental shops
If you need good scary movies definately check out:
[Recent]
Hostel
High Tension
Saw I (& II?)
Cube (imo this was a very good movie although they made 3 I think #2 is the best.)
The Jacket (not terrifying but extremely interesting)
8MM (avg for some, great for others)
28 Days Later
Also one of my friends told me he watched a movie called "Salo: The 120 Days of Sodom" and it was the scariest most disturbing picture he's ever seen. If anyone has seen this movie let me know I haven't found it at any local videorental shops
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From: My own level of hell
Originally Posted by Wow Civic
Nightshade, use the EDIT button. The rampant double posting is unnecessary.
If you need good scary movies definately check out:
[Recent]
Hostel
High Tension
Saw I (& II?)
Cube (imo this was a very good movie although they made 3 I think #2 is the best.)
The Jacket (not terrifying but extremely interesting)
8MM (avg for some, great for others)
Also one of my friends told me he watched a movie called "Salo: The 120 Days of Sodom" and it was the scariest most disturbing picture he's ever seen. If anyone has seen this movie let me know I haven't found it at any local videorental shops.
If you need good scary movies definately check out:
[Recent]
Hostel
High Tension
Saw I (& II?)
Cube (imo this was a very good movie although they made 3 I think #2 is the best.)
The Jacket (not terrifying but extremely interesting)
8MM (avg for some, great for others)
Also one of my friends told me he watched a movie called "Salo: The 120 Days of Sodom" and it was the scariest most disturbing picture he's ever seen. If anyone has seen this movie let me know I haven't found it at any local videorental shops.
Second of all Cube and 8mm are psychological thrillers and not horror movies or scary by any real stretch...the jacket rnks more as Sci Fi suspense than anything else.
Salo...yeah...umm...I will give it up for that flick, it was pretty disturbing and considering it's year of release it still holds it's shock value. I am actually surprised it wasn't given an X rating for violence and sexual content. The 70s were not good times to be releasing movies of this type, but they are some of the most memorable for the genre.
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
Violence even in horror movies has to have a logical placement in order to further the movie and keep continuity.
The point of slashers is to shock you but there still has to be content to make it believable even if you are using the supernatural. Look at 13 Ghosts for example, the ghosts were bound by metaphysical law which was the glass containment system that was built and engraved with the writings of ancient bonds. When they were released people did not just suddenly explode nor could they attack the humans through the containment cells they were in. Once freed they attacked with what would be concluded as logical choice of instruments. The nail guy attacked with a spike and hammer, the drowning woman attacked with her hands (claws), and it was logical because it was how these people died or what they had with them at their disposal as well as the set boundaries...it was consistent and it had substance; which by the way is rare for a mainstream horror movie with star actors to actually do.
So what I am saying is that if you start movie and give no background, then you enter a guy with a chainsaw to clear out a room of high school kids attending prom, you are left with a gaping hole and nothing but attempted shock value with no buildup to the shock.
The point of slashers is to shock you but there still has to be content to make it believable even if you are using the supernatural. Look at 13 Ghosts for example, the ghosts were bound by metaphysical law which was the glass containment system that was built and engraved with the writings of ancient bonds. When they were released people did not just suddenly explode nor could they attack the humans through the containment cells they were in. Once freed they attacked with what would be concluded as logical choice of instruments. The nail guy attacked with a spike and hammer, the drowning woman attacked with her hands (claws), and it was logical because it was how these people died or what they had with them at their disposal as well as the set boundaries...it was consistent and it had substance; which by the way is rare for a mainstream horror movie with star actors to actually do.
So what I am saying is that if you start movie and give no background, then you enter a guy with a chainsaw to clear out a room of high school kids attending prom, you are left with a gaping hole and nothing but attempted shock value with no buildup to the shock.
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From: teh 808 state
Originally Posted by c_rogue69
I hope you're right about being worth it, I'm taking my girl to see it today. I hate wasting my money on shitty movies...like, "Into the Blue"...I didn't wanna see it, but my buddy's girl was 17 at the time and couldn't get into a rated R movie, so that was the next "best" movie to see. It sucked balls...JA made the movie interesting (for me, anyways).