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View Poll Results: What is Greatest Challenge Currently Facing the US
Disease-Aids, Cancer, Diabetes, Heart disease etc
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16.67%
Economy and Employment
16
29.63%
Energy-Electrical Generation, Petroleum
11
20.37%
Environment-Air, Land and Water Pollution
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9.26%
Illegal Immigration
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38.89%
Iraq War and Terrorism
16
29.63%
Social Security and Tax Reform
15
27.78%
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What is the Greatest Problem the US Faces

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PacificDude
38.78% for Illegal Immigration

I'm a little disappointed in the polls...this thread is "What is the greatest problem the US faces?" not "What is the greatest problem California faces?"

sheesh
I have not looked at recent poll numbers, but it is not just left coasters that are concerned about this.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by antarius
Northern states may feel fine calling immigration a Californian or Texan problem, but the instant a little terrorists runs across the border, builds a bomb, and blows up a little supermarket in Idaho it will instantly become their problem.

I'd rather not wait that long.
News flash: Americans blow up more Americans than foreigners blow up Americans.

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Let me apologize for saying this, but I can't resist. You must be a Democrat, you have lots of reasons why my ideas are terrible and would never work, but not much else to offer. The whole point of this thread was too stimulate discussion, so maybe someone else will come up with something constructive.
Alright alright, cease your crying and let's think a little bit.

I'm sorry your idea sucks but them's the breaks.

When people post really bad ideas, I say they are really bad ideas. This is factual and honest.

Person says "Well blah you don't have any better ideas so nyah"


The fact that I have not stated an ideal solution to the problem doesn't stop your solution from being a big steaming pile of doggy doo. Things are bad on an absolute scale, not a relative scale. If we were talking relative, I would be using comparatives like worse. I'm not.


To sum up:
  • There is nothign wrong with the current social security system.
  • There is something wrong with the funding for the current social security system.
  • Fixing the funding of the social security system does not neccessitate a change in its structure or philosophy.
  • A flat sales tax has nothing to do with social security.
  • Once again "fixing" social security is being used to advance a large social agenda.
  • A flat sales tax is a bad idea for many reasons, some of which I have addressed.


I am not a democrat, but thank you for highlighting exactly the focus point of this discussion, which is that various people are using problems which are barely if at all connected to their "solutions" as an excuse to advance some party line agenda bullshit.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Okay, well then I guess since Americans do it more often than foreigners we should just ignore our borders and immigration policies and just not worry about it, right?

That's the dumbest fuckin thing you've said yet.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Girlfriends cheating on their boyfriends while their in myrtle beach...
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by antarius
Okay, well then I guess since Americans do it more often than foreigners we should just ignore our borders and immigration policies and just not worry about it, right?

That's the dumbest fuckin thing you've said yet.

Hello Mr. Limbaugh, no just because I don't agree with your idea doesn't mean I support the extreme opposite of your idea. Thanks to the human brain that is between my ears I am capable of possessing opinions that are between two extremes. I do not function in binary.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by syked
Girlfriends cheating on their boyfriends while their in myrtle beach...
Hah.

Not to laugh at your situation, but that was funny to read in this thread.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by qtiger
Hello Mr. Limbaugh, no just because I don't agree with your idea doesn't mean I support the extreme opposite of your idea. Thanks to the human brain that is between my ears I am capable of possessing opinions that are between two extremes. I do not function in binary.
Mr. Limbaugh? Hahah! The funny thing is, I bet you've listened to Rush Limbaugh more than I have.

And regardless what your implication was or was not, it was still the dumbest thing you've said yet.

I mean, afterall, Americans kill how many Americans a year? Hundreds of thousands? Foreigners only killed around 4,000 on 9/11, so I guess it's not so bad huh?

Open them borders right on up!!!!
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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I have never listened to Limbaugh.



And you'll notice that I said nothing at all about opening up borders. Please peddle your flames and pathetic attempts to classify me as some kind of crazy ass liberal elsewhere. The only one you're making look like an idiot is you.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by qtiger
I have never listened to Limbaugh.



And you'll notice that I said nothing at all about opening up borders. Please peddle your flames and pathetic attempts to classify me as some kind of crazy ass liberal elsewhere. The only one you're making look like an idiot is you.
So what was your implication then? I mean, you tried to minimize the threat of terrorism by saying Americans kill more Americans than foreigners do -- so I put it in perspective and you respond with... uh... nothing?
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Politicians. h:
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