safer..... have any proof? if anything i think we are in more danger, not from terriorists but from our own government.

 

bush brings a to all our faces.

 

America is a lot safer with Al Qaeda not having a stronghold to base their operations in and a free and stable Iraq will only help to stabalize the Middle East. Plus, how many terrorist attacks have happened agianst US targets since 9/11?

As for being in danger from our own government...that is a pretty good stretch, do you care to offer proof?

 

that didnt really have any proof in it eather and i dont wanna spend 5 and a half hours pulling information to make a point to someone i dont know and i know i will prob never agree with. and the middle east has been fighting for thousands of years us goin and and stiring shit up isnt gunna make anything good happen.

just dont watch network news and you might see some stuff.

 

Fair enough. Touche!

 

good glad we agree to disagree

edit:
www.Disinformation.com is a pretty cool site they have some good stuff from credible sources.

 

did anyone see this episode of south park?

 

I don't think obtuse means what you think it means. I think you meant to call me gullible, which I am not.

Nader is a smart guy with a long history of shining a huge spotlight on people he thinks are doing something wrong. In this case, he has found a pile of evidence from multiple government sources, American and British, that suggest that President Bush knew he was wrong -- lying, in fact -- to the world in order to garner support for an invasion. I understand that not everyone is as angry as I am, but how are you not curious to know the truth?

If you are truly a patriot, how are you not curious to know if the President needlessly endangered and lost many American lives? Is your patriotism reserved for your party instead of your country? How are you not even asking questions? Are you a patriot or a puppet?

A good friend of mine is a Marine, and he's pretty sure he's going to be sent to Iraq. I'm scared shitless that he's going to be injured or killed, and I'm angry as hell that President Bush is putting him in that position for no reason.

This is whats called a "straw man." It means that you throw out a piece of information thats unrelated to the topic at hand in order to divert attention from the fact that you don't have a counter-argument. I'm not impressed.

 

hrmmm question...when you joined the armed forces are you not already putting your life at risk to serve your country? what makes it different if you fight? i mean the government didn't put the gun to your head and tell you join up or we'll kill you like in other countries. your friends choice, his responsibility, you put on the uniform knowing you have to serve your commander and chief whoever it is.

 

obtuse-imperceptive, slow witted, we aint talking geometry here.

Did you even read that long article you pasted in from this Thomas Patrick Carroll? I did. I even went to a few of the articles it cited. It pretty much makes more intelligent arguments to support my point of view than I would bother to type out. If the US fails to take the long term into consideration when it acts, it is not just America that is lost. When the President said he was against nation building, then does a 180 and starts doing just that in two nasty Islamic countries, I was pretty pissed, at first. The way to end this stuff is to destroy its breeding ground. If all the countries in the world were Democracies, we would have a lot fewer problems, that seems clear to me after careful consideration.

I made the hillary comment to see if I could get a rise out of you, apparently it worked. I was just kidding, sort of. I do believe that she is a vindictive bitch who would leap at the chance for a little payback, but I don't think you need to send her a letter to put her to work on it.