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Old May 4, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
Debatable. I personally have always hated Ford automatics. If this were GM we were talking about, then it would be another story.
Not debateable at all really its just plain fact regardless if it is GM or Ford their autos used in their cars far outweigh their manuals in performance.

True the manual is more fun to drive because of the control factor but performance wise, if you drop a shift kit in and a new torque convertor you are going to eat a manual for lunch 9 times out of 10.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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Of course, but Ford autos are not known for their uhhh, durability.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowbastard
Automatics aren't so bad on V8 domestics. It's not like a 4cyl where you'll need to redline every gear.
Originally Posted by redgoober4life
Debatable. I personally have always hated Ford automatics. If this were GM we were talking about, then it would be another story.
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Not debateable at all really its just plain fact regardless if it is GM or Ford their autos used in their cars far outweigh their manuals in performance.

True the manual is more fun to drive because of the control factor but performance wise, if you drop a shift kit in and a new torque convertor you are going to eat a manual for lunch 9 times out of 10.
I was thinking about the fun factor. But that is true, them V8 MBZ's are pretty gosh darn quick :happysad:
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Old May 4, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
Of course, but Ford autos are not known for their uhhh, durability.
You must be thinking their 4 cylinder models because they were designed by Mazda

In their 8 cyl it is reverse and the autos are actually stronger than their manuals. The only time you go manual on them is if you are diesel and towing a lot then you get a far stronger tranny anyways. But the gas pusher manuals tend to have a failure in the slave cylinder of the hydro clutch and occasionally after a while the pressure foot on them snaps. I am pretty sure they have fixed that design flaw but it still doesn't end the fast wearing clutch situation from under gearing the axle and tranny combo
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Old May 4, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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lol were some of their v6 autos designed by mazda too, because I know a lot of people that have problems with those...
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Old May 4, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
lol were some of their v6 autos designed by mazda too, because I know a lot of people that have problems with those...
Yep a lot of the current model V6 trannies and engines both were also designed by Mazda and simply restamped as a Ford.
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lol THAT must be why there are always ford explorers on the lots of transmission repar shops...that also sell used cars.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by redgoober4life
lol THAT must be why there are always ford explorers on the lots of transmission repar shops...that also sell used cars.
The Ford Exloder was just simply a crap design to begin with.

If you blow a head gasket you may as well replace the motor because the heads instantly warp and its about a $1500 bill to fix it. Their trannies have an odd shift point that puts a lot of stress on the drive train which causes all kinds of issues. If you go under and adjust the shift point its a lot easier on it but then the head gasket is guaranteed to blow around 80 - 100k anyways and who does a head gasket as preventative maintenence?
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