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From: My own level of hell
Originally Posted by agent87
:wtf: Have you even ridden an EX500 Nightshade? As a former EX500a (the crappier older one) rider, I have to disagree. I'm even a lightweight at only around 155lbs (was around 140lbs when I rode the EX though). I'd ridden it on the freeway plenty of times from the SFBA to SB and SLO as well as back roads and rarely had trouble with wind gusts from rigs and the like. In the right hands, my own hands definitely excluded 
h:, the little EX is a very capable street performer. I'd recommend the 93+ d model though which has a few updates but is basically the same thing. It even gets great gas mileage and is cheap to insure.
h:, the little EX is a very capable street performer. I'd recommend the 93+ d model though which has a few updates but is basically the same thing. It even gets great gas mileage and is cheap to insure.I put a year on one off and on and took several trips on it from North Platte Nebaraska over to Denver Colorado. This is a pretty fair drive with lots of 4 lane highway (two lanes each way) and many transport trucks to pass. At 80 the bike was stable but still felt light if a cross wind came up at ay time. Slow down to 65 and it still feels solid except when you hit any crosswind.
For the street its fine though a bit slow for even beginners. On a surface street in a town or city you are not going to hit any crosswinds that would even bother you, and you also aren't traveling at the same speeds you would on the highway or freeway.
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From: Detroit, MI
Originally Posted by agent87
Another thing, I see nothing wrong with a person's parents helping them out with school expenses and even car payments. When I was younger, I used to get jealous like so many people on this board. I've never had a new car and I used to insist on paying for my own clothes and my own classes to be "independent". Now I realize that if one can provide a headstart for their kids, why not give it to them? I know many people who've been handed things from bicycles to new cars and even help with purchasing homes by their parents and they're still perfectly well adjusted individuals. What's more, no matter how much you or I may think they're spoiled brats, nothing's going to change the fact that they've got the headstart and that's that. So my advice is to take care of your own business and just respect others the way you'd expect to be respected.
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From: so cal 951 + 760
Originally Posted by redgoober4life
That wasn't the point. The point is when the kid thinks the parent's owe them it....but obviously you forgot to read my posts fully, so I'll give up replying to yours.
people who complain about their parents, who are already helping them more than need be, have no right to complain.
this doesnt apply to this thread specifically.. but i see this sorta thing on club rsx all day.. where 16 yr olds have brand new type s's + mods.. w/o jobs.... then they complain about not being able to do blah blah blah..
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From: Bay Area.
Since you said that you have not ridden b4 , I suggest you take a Motorcycle Safety Class b4 you get a bike. It teaches you the basics in the classroom and as well as getting actual ride time on their bikes. After completion , you get a certificate that might help in lowering your insurance.
That is the route that I took and is recomended by veterans and motorcycle forums. Plus I did'nt have to take the driving test at DMV to get my M1 class.
If your not in California , see if your state offers such programs.
That is the route that I took and is recomended by veterans and motorcycle forums. Plus I did'nt have to take the driving test at DMV to get my M1 class.
If your not in California , see if your state offers such programs.
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From: Southern NH
Originally Posted by CPL
Since you said that you have not ridden b4 , I suggest you take a Motorcycle Safety Class b4 you get a bike. It teaches you the basics in the classroom and as well as getting actual ride time on their bikes. After completion , you get a certificate that might help in lowering your insurance.
That is the route that I took and is recomended by veterans and motorcycle forums. Plus I did'nt have to take the driving test at DMV to get my M1 class.
If your not in California , see if your state offers such programs.
That is the route that I took and is recomended by veterans and motorcycle forums. Plus I did'nt have to take the driving test at DMV to get my M1 class.
If your not in California , see if your state offers such programs.
h:Hope to get a bike next year, but I have a feeling the RSX will be the primary focus.
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From: san jose, ca
Originally Posted by CPL
Since you said that you have not ridden b4 , I suggest you take a Motorcycle Safety Class b4 you get a bike. It teaches you the basics in the classroom and as well as getting actual ride time on their bikes. After completion , you get a certificate that might help in lowering your insurance.
That is the route that I took and is recomended by veterans and motorcycle forums. Plus I did'nt have to take the driving test at DMV to get my M1 class.
If your not in California , see if your state offers such programs.
That is the route that I took and is recomended by veterans and motorcycle forums. Plus I did'nt have to take the driving test at DMV to get my M1 class.
If your not in California , see if your state offers such programs.
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From: nj
Originally Posted by rich
werd, i took the MSF class also...then i only had to take the written test at the DMV
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From: Scranton PA
Originally Posted by Nightshade
Yeah but you forget most kids nowadays are handed everything they want and still complain about it.
I NEVER ASKED THEM TO PAY FOR THE BIKE NOR INSURANCE
They want me in school and choose to help pay because I switched schools so it would be cheaper for them and now have to commute. So they helped me buy a car so I have something reliable.
Originally Posted by RB26DETT
isnt he going through school? i dont think its fair to be on his ass about not doing the payments himself.
Originally Posted by RB26DETT
what are you talking about? if he's going to school full time, its not easy having the money to pay for insurance and a car during school. what reward?
Originally Posted by redgoober4life
Wow, well if that's the case my parents must be horrible. Where do I sign up for new ones!
The reward is: people go to school and drive crappy cars so they can graduate from school and buy a nice car. It's a reward to themself in exchange for their hard work. Now we have somebody saying that their parents are bad because they won't pay for insurance on something that is fairly useless other than to be fun. What do you call that? If it isn't a reward or a gift, then what is it? And what is it in exchange for? "Because I'm your child" doesn't work.
I think there's a major lack of respect here (at least in how the story is told), and going to school full time doesn't justify it. You just don't entitle yourself to your parent's money.
The reward is: people go to school and drive crappy cars so they can graduate from school and buy a nice car. It's a reward to themself in exchange for their hard work. Now we have somebody saying that their parents are bad because they won't pay for insurance on something that is fairly useless other than to be fun. What do you call that? If it isn't a reward or a gift, then what is it? And what is it in exchange for? "Because I'm your child" doesn't work.
I think there's a major lack of respect here (at least in how the story is told), and going to school full time doesn't justify it. You just don't entitle yourself to your parent's money.
Originally Posted by Nightshade
Personally if I was his parents I would say go ahead.....but he has to sell the car to get the bike 
Originally Posted by agent87
That said hondapilot, if your parents are helping you with all your expenses, you may just have to wait it out until you are financially independent. Sucks but that's life. I'm even contemplating selling off my current bike for now to go back to school but we'll see.
Another thing, I see nothing wrong with a person's parents helping them out with school expenses and even car payments. When I was younger, I used to get jealous like so many people on this board. I've never had a new car and I used to insist on paying for my own clothes and my own classes to be "independent". Now I realize that if one can provide a headstart for their kids, why not give it to them? I know many people who've been handed things from bicycles to new cars and even help with purchasing homes by their parents and they're still perfectly well adjusted individuals. What's more, no matter how much you or I may think they're spoiled brats, nothing's going to change the fact that they've got the headstart and that's that. So my advice is to take care of your own business and just respect others the way you'd expect to be respected.
