New study on Global Warming
Originally Posted by Tark
BTW i think we should reduce emission in the developed countries but should not ask the underdeveloped countries to do the same.
that makes no sense. then they will benefit from US
it's the underdeveloped countries that pollute the air more than the developed countries.
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Originally Posted by WiLL
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Originally Posted by antarius
That's completely wrong. I wish I had an article for you, but only in the past 40,000 years has the temperature stayed relatively stable, before that point it flucuated very quickly and very drastically, quite often.
Originally Posted by antarius
Yeah, god forbid rainfall increase right? Cause while one area would get flooded and coastal cities would get "destroyed," deserts and other area's that are completely inhospitable right now would be lush and full of water and greenery and nutrients.
You can continue believing in your doomsday scenario brought on by humans though, it's ok.
You can continue believing in your doomsday scenario brought on by humans though, it's ok.
Originally Posted by Tark
Just so i can understand your point of view on this you are saying that there is no reason to reduce greenhouse gas emissions because there is no proof that they cause global warming?
or are you saying that we should still reduce emissions but you do not believe that it causes global warming?
BTW i think we should reduce emission in the developed countries but should not ask the underdeveloped countries to do the same.
or are you saying that we should still reduce emissions but you do not believe that it causes global warming?
BTW i think we should reduce emission in the developed countries but should not ask the underdeveloped countries to do the same.
Originally Posted by DaKarMaul
that makes no sense. then they will benefit from US
it's the underdeveloped countries that pollute the air more than the developed countries.
it's the underdeveloped countries that pollute the air more than the developed countries.
Originally Posted by DaKarMaul
that makes no sense. then they will benefit from US
it's the underdeveloped countries that pollute the air more than the developed countries.
it's the underdeveloped countries that pollute the air more than the developed countries.I'm a fan of strict emissions guidelines that are porportional to population and life expectancy; as these factors of wellbeing increase, so should the internationally mandated pollution controlls increase... unfortunately, there's too much room for beaucratic error in this, so I don't think it would be a realistically applicable situation.
Originally Posted by Tark
are you being serious?
no I'm being honest. it's a fact.
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Originally Posted by WiLL
...I really wanna get out and shoot people.
Originally Posted by Epoch
It's a double edged razor, that approach. The theory standing is that if we can get these countries to develop as fast as possible, then it would be economically feasible to quickly turn them to environmental management, and in the end, have a net reduction in emissions. The problem with this approach is that this is ideal, and I believe that they will continue in "business-as-usual" policies and the problem will only aggrivate itself. On the other hand, forcing them to work on the same effeciency levels is economically impossible, and if enforcable, will destroy their economies.
I'm a fan of strict emissions guidelines that are porportional to population and life expectancy; as these factors of wellbeing increase, so should the internationally mandated pollution controlls increase... unfortunately, there's too much room for beaucratic error in this, so I don't think it would be a realistically applicable situation.
I'm a fan of strict emissions guidelines that are porportional to population and life expectancy; as these factors of wellbeing increase, so should the internationally mandated pollution controlls increase... unfortunately, there's too much room for beaucratic error in this, so I don't think it would be a realistically applicable situation.
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Originally Posted by WiLL
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Originally Posted by antarius
I think we need to find a new form of fuel for the simple fact that it creates a ton of pollution, it's horribly inefficient, and we'll run out of our supply one day or another. Not because of global warming, in the least.
Agreed on that level. I think global warming is a factor, but your push to change to environmentally sound fuel is the same as mine: It's not sustainable, inefficient, and the costs associated with it's cleanup are, simply put, unacceptable.
I think my favorite solutions so far are:
1) Use tidal energy to seperate hydrogen and oxygen, suspend it in a sugar-liks solution, and use that for fuel
and
2) Farm more possible sustainable fuels, like jojoba oil and such
Those are the most realistic and possible solutions to date that I've found.
Originally Posted by Epoch
Agreed on that level. I think global warming is a factor, but your push to change to environmentally sound fuel is the same as mine: It's not sustainable, inefficient, and the costs associated with it's cleanup are, simply put, unacceptable.
I think my favorite solutions so far are:
1) Use tidal energy to seperate hydrogen and oxygen, suspend it in a sugar-liks solution, and use that for fuel
and
2) Farm more possible sustainable fuels, like jojoba oil and such
Those are the most realistic and possible solutions to date that I've found.
I think my favorite solutions so far are:
1) Use tidal energy to seperate hydrogen and oxygen, suspend it in a sugar-liks solution, and use that for fuel
and
2) Farm more possible sustainable fuels, like jojoba oil and such
Those are the most realistic and possible solutions to date that I've found.
except neither of those solutions are feasible right now and if only say the US did it. it wouldn't make a big difference at all.
the main failing point is that unless everyone did it, it wouldn't matter.
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Originally Posted by WiLL
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Originally Posted by DaKarMaul
correct. I feel the same way about that particular approach.


