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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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I'm pro-Draft as well...all my friends scream "I'm going Canadian!" and I roll my eyes. You people expect these freedoms and rights to be yours, however, you wont be any part of fighting for it like the men and women who VOLUNTEER to do it for you.

You lazy pieces of shit.

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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LT6916
I'm pro-Draft as well...all my friends scream "I'm going Canadian!" and I roll my eyes. You people expect these freedoms and rights to be yours, however, you wont be any part of fighting for it like the men and women who VOLUNTEER to do it for you.

You lazy pieces of $hit.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LT6916
I'm pro-Draft as well...all my friends scream "I'm going Canadian!" and I roll my eyes. You people expect these freedoms and rights to be yours, however, you wont be any part of fighting for it like the men and women who VOLUNTEER to do it for you.

You lazy pieces of shit.

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ill defend my country but i wont attack other countries for no purpose.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by axemansean
Yes... or we are all planning to move to Australia. Sunny beaches, cool cars, etc.
Can I come? :happysad: I have a friend there. :naughty:
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LT6916
I'm pro-Draft as well...all my friends scream "I'm going Canadian!" and I roll my eyes. You people expect these freedoms and rights to be yours, however, you wont be any part of fighting for it like the men and women who VOLUNTEER to do it for you.

You lazy pieces of shit.
The people who originally got you those freedoms and rights did so by opposing the unjust rule of government. Blindly supporting your government no matter what it does is disparaging those freedoms you claim to hold so dear far more that anyone else sticking up for their goddamn convictions in the face of being called unamerican, antiamerican, and unpatriotic.

You should be glad that there are still some people left in this country with the conviction to go out in the streets and be the vocal minority, and actively campaign against what they view as unjust.

I refuse to endorse unethical and immoral actions with compliance, even if it means breaking the law.

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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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Call me a lazy piece of shit if you wish.

I'm not willing to put my life on the line for a cause which I don't necessarily believe in. Do I think that my freedom is being defended by invading Iraq and getting the country into the quagmire it now is? No, I do not.

Before you right wingers start your cries of "support the troops" and whatnot, if that's your response to my comments then you have misunderstood. I support the troops because I want them to get out of harm's way. Disagreeing with the war itself is supporting the troops more than wanting them to be fighting and dieing in what I believe is an unjustified war.

If the time comes when this country is involved in a war that I don't have a significant objection to, then maybe I'd consider joining up.

But until that happens, no thank you.
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 11:12 PM
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by axemansean
Actually most of my American friends are hoping that Bush gets kicked out very soon and all this horse shit ends. Otherwise most of them want to flee to other countries. Yes it royally sucks and I hope it doesn't happen, I am slowly beginning to realize its a vicious cycle with no winning.

People who think that Bush is behind there being a draft are complete morons. The democrats in congress have been the ones trying to get draft legislation passed.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
Call me a lazy piece of shit if you wish.

I'm not willing to put my life on the line for a cause which I don't necessarily believe in. Do I think that my freedom is being defended by invading Iraq and getting the country into the quagmire it now is? No, I do not.

Before you right wingers start your cries of "support the troops" and whatnot, if that's your response to my comments then you have misunderstood. I support the troops because I want them to get out of harm's way. Disagreeing with the war itself is supporting the troops more than wanting them to be fighting and dieing in what I believe is an unjustified war.

If the time comes when this country is involved in a war that I don't have a significant objection to, then maybe I'd consider joining up.

But until that happens, no thank you.
can you pose a hypothetical war situation in which you would sign up?
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by axemansean
Take a step or two back, remove the blinders and look at the picture again. The scenario I painted is a very real scenario that has been played over and over again in many a war. The army in any nation teaches you to kill with no remorse, I raised the what if question and its not been answered yet. What would you do if you had to raise that gun to the head of your own blood? Would you pull the trigger? Its a moralistic question, some would say yes because its in the name of the country and others will say no because blood is thicker than anything a country has to offer.

What you have posed has actually happened in the American Civil War. Open a history book and read about it. It was a common occurance that families were divided by the two sides and they fought against eachother.
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