Oregon is not land locked...neither is Washington, Texas, Louisiana, Florida and the entire eastern seaboard.

I have lived, worked, and owned property in Cali......never again will I make that mistake.

 

I actually thought about that when I typed it but I just wanted to cover a ton of states by saying that. As for all the states and areas you've mentioned, that was supposed to be covered by the use of my phrase "or something".

Honestly, I don't know why some people publicly hate on California. It's almost as if they have "Cali-envy". I rarely see anyone from California hating on other states on this board unless they're joking in self defense or just clueless in general. Or maybe they had a bad experience in one small corner of that state and feel that that reflects upon the condition of that state as a whole.

The thing is that Fresno or Sac or wherever it was that your former house was is of course not representative of all of California. I've been to Portland years ago and I know that all of Oregon can't be like that. Every location in the world has its pros and cons. If there are a hell of a lot of pros, it just so happens that cost of living and population density become greater cons.

Anyway, I know your post was meant to be taken lightheartedly. I just wanted to reply to say that and use the term "Cali-envy". :fawk: h:

 

I grew up in Cali for 16 years...so yes I have seen it all and my conclusion is the same.

However, this thread was meant lighthearted as you said.

 

californ-i-a!!!
:loco:

 

rad

 

With president arnold.


arghhughe CONAN!

 

Every notice how all the points for Cali are intangible and matters of opinion, and all those against are facts?

 

Well, we do have some of the best weather in the U.S.and that's a fact....

 

Best according to whom?

 

I dont remember where, but it is true. Name somewhere else in the U.S. that's better...