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electoral college:yay or nay?

Old Oct 6, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
Regardless of the recount in Florida or anything like that, Gore won the popular vote in 2000. Had there been no electoral college there would have been no need for a recount and Gore would be president.
Thank God for the electoral college!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
Electoral College was put into place because the founding fathers thought the people were too stupid to make a wise decision.
And with all the support for Kerry, apparently it's still true today

The electoral college is a nice check and balance, just like everything else our founding father set up. Brilliantly conceived. However, it was more applicable when news wasn't so easily spread and would be better served in a country like Afghanistan where not everyone has access to news 24/7 like we do. I support the electoral college very strongly in almost all cases...in a country as large as this, it gives little states meaning.

Think about it this way: If it was only about popular vote, Kerry could just spend his time campaigning in big cities like New York and LA, which he already has wrapped up, just so he could rake in all the undecideds and right leaners. Even though they're in the minority, it's still a far larger group than you'd find in total in small towns. The electoral college gives little states and little towns importance in a general election.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by benjamin
The electoral college is a relic and should be eliminated in favor of Instant-runoff voting.
People in this country can't even ****ing punch all the way through a voting card, do you think they'll grasp the nuances of a complicated system? instant runoff is a stupid way to go IMO...it's not like the #2 guy becomes vice president like it used to be. There's no point to ranking candidates.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
People in this country can't even ****ing punch all the way through a voting card, do you think they'll grasp the nuances of a complicated system? instant runoff is a stupid way to go IMO...it's not like the #2 guy becomes vice president like it used to be. There's no point to ranking candidates.
Pretend you go into a voting booth and see the following:

Make a list of the candiates from most favorable to least favorable:
1.
2.
3.
4.

You think this is too complicated?
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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The US is the smartest country because it went to the Electoral College.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by v8guy
The US is the smartest country because it went to the Electoral College.
"[Author George C. Edwards's] greatest objection to the Electoral College is that it violates the principle of political equality. His case is compelling: Since the electoral votes of each state equal the number of Congressmen and Senators from that state, small states have a much larger percentage of the electoral vote than larger states. Nor does every ballot carry the same weight. In 2003, one electoral vote in Wyoming corresponded to 167,081 persons, and to 645,172 folks in California."

Thats smrt.


(Quote taken from http://www.nyobserver.com/pages/story.asp?ID=9551)
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by benjamin
"[Author George C. Edwards's] greatest objection to the Electoral College is that it violates the principle of political equality. His case is compelling: Since the electoral votes of each state equal the number of Congressmen and Senators from that state, small states have a much larger percentage of the electoral vote than larger states. Nor does every ballot carry the same weight. In 2003, one electoral vote in Wyoming corresponded to 167,081 persons, and to 645,172 folks in California."

Thats smrt.


(Quote taken from http://www.nyobserver.com/pages/story.asp?ID=9551)
c'mon, can't you take a joke?
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by v8guy
c'mon, can't you take a joke?
Sure. However, the only other thing you posted in this thread was "thank god for the electoral college." How was I supposed to know you were joking with the "US is teh smart" post?
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightshade
Electoral College was put into place because the founding fathers thought the people were too stupid to make a wise decision.

i wonder if the founding fathers actually came out and said that

hrmm, maybe i should give them a call...
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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Read a history book if you don't believe it. In the 1780, a lot of people didn't have access to political campaigns, or weren't literate enough to read about the candidates position on things.
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