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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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yeah only 1 was worthy of it though :dunno:

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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DakarM
that's not correct.

the water explodes because the teabag broke the surface tension.

this is actually a fairly common injury.

the water doesn't boil because the temperature is raise very quickly

the myth they were testing was if the water would actually explode.
not exactly

When water is heated it can reach a temperature at which rapid evaporation begins to form bubbles of gas (steam) inside the mass of liquid. As small bubbles join they can form larger bubbles, and so forth. It is not as easy as it sounds creating these gas bubbles and this process is called nucleation. For this to occur there must be some defect in the cup or pot or some hot spot to help aid in this difficult phenomena. This happens fairly readily in a metal teapot heated on an open flame. The tea pot has seams and defects, plus with the fire directly on only one part of the pot you get hot spots. So water on the stove forms these bubbles fairly readily once the boiling point is reached. Microwave water in a smooth mug has none of the factors to help assist in nucleation. Thus no bubbles form even though the water temperature has risen beyond the boiling point. When you disturb the mug or put something in it you provide the conditions for nucleation and the water bubbles form rapidly. It is possible to superheat water in a microwave long enough to cause a huge bubble to suddenly form and force the water out of the mug violently. However, this would take heating the water in the microwave for several minutes after it had reached the boiling point. If you then slowly opened the door and kept your face close to the mug, then yes, this could have happened.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by /^Blackmagik^\
not exactly

yeah replace surface tension with nucleation

but it's also not the impurities in the water itself. but rather the container.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DakarM
yeah replace surface tension with nucleation

but it's also not the impurities in the water itself. but rather the container.
i just remembered it was something about impurities:dunno:
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DakarM
yeah replace surface tension with nucleation

but it's also not the impurities in the water itself. but rather the container.
no, it's the impurities in the water. Just if you have distilled water in a impure container, the water will become impure itself.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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i just did a mock presentation...do you guys think this is too much for 6th-8th graders? the objective of the vacuum chamber is just to show Mars' atmosphere compared to Earth's, and for them to see something cool.

do you think explaining the weight of the atmosphere vs. the vapor pressure is needed? h:
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Originally Posted by WiLL
i just did a mock presentation...do you guys think this is too much for 6th-8th graders? the objective of the vacuum chamber is just to show Mars' atmosphere compared to Earth's, and for them to see something cool.

do you think explaining the weight of the atmosphere vs. the vapor pressure is needed? h:
just say something like "Earth has more air pressure than mars, so it holds the water molecules together for a longer period of time"
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by WiLL
i just did a mock presentation...do you guys think this is too much for 6th-8th graders? the objective of the vacuum chamber is just to show Mars' atmosphere compared to Earth's, and for them to see something cool.

do you think explaining the weight of the atmosphere vs. the vapor pressure is needed? h:

yes you should explain it. or maybe see if they can figure it out on their own
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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ok one last thing....

when the water is in the vacuum, there is little or no air pressure holding the water down, so the vapor pressure easily overcomes the atmosphere pressure and boils out. and the vapour pressure exists from the heat around the room? :thinking:
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Originally Posted by WiLL
ok one last thing....

when the water is in the vacuum, there is little or no air pressure holding the water down, so the vapor pressure easily overcomes the atmosphere pressure and boils out. and the vapour pressure exists from the heat around the room? :thinking:
vapor exists only from pressure...heat only makes the pressure increase (cold) or decrease (hot)
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