Notices
The Basement Non-Honda/Acura discussion. Content should be tasteful and "primetime" safe.

Hackers on HAN?

Thread Tools
 
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 05:59 PM
  #11  
dE.fUsEd's Avatar
dE.fUsEd
I still like honda's. :-/
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 16,762
Likes: 0
From: Gilbert, AZ
Default

free kevin!!
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:02 PM
  #12  
benjamin's Avatar
benjamin
Thread Starter
Stuff and things.
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,972
Likes: 0
From: New York
Default

Originally Posted by clickwir
Exactly the reason poor Kevin Mitnick was put in prison and treated like he tried to blow up the whole USA.

Such a smart guy, held back because some people with authority don't understand what he's so smart about.
To be fair, Mitnick really did steal passwords and information. He compromised corporate computer and phone networks and government computer networks. Mitnick was definitely wronged by the federal government when they held him for four and a half years before bringing him to trial.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:06 PM
  #13  
benjamin's Avatar
benjamin
Thread Starter
Stuff and things.
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,972
Likes: 0
From: New York
Default

Originally Posted by 94civicEX
Over my head, anyone care to explain what it spit back?
A COCOT is a Customer Owned Coin Operated Telephone, or a payphone. The data is probably just some diagnostic information, but what the guy is saying is that he doesn't know what it is.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:11 PM
  #14  
94civicEX's Avatar
94civicEX
I got worms.
 
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 32,238
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Default

Originally Posted by benjamin
A COCOT is a Customer Owned Coin Operated Telephone, or a payphone. The data is probably just some diagnostic information, but what the guy is saying is that he doesn't know what it is.
Gotacha, but it's not really known if you can do anything with it?
__________________
99 Integra GSR
06 TSX

duck squad member #00003
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:14 PM
  #15  
LT's Avatar
LT
The deer had to die!
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 39,835
Likes: 0
From: Fussa, Japan
Default

huh?
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:14 PM
  #16  
benjamin's Avatar
benjamin
Thread Starter
Stuff and things.
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,972
Likes: 0
From: New York
Default

Originally Posted by 94civicEX
Gotacha, but it's not really known if you can do anything with it?
If you have the right software you can reprogram the phone remotely. For example, the owner can login and change the amount of money required for phone calls.

Somewhere in that string in cocot-15.avi is probably the number of coins in the phone at the time.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:16 PM
  #17  
94civicEX's Avatar
94civicEX
I got worms.
 
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 32,238
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Default

Originally Posted by benjamin
If you have the right software you can reprogram the phone remotely. For example, the owner can login and change the amount of money required for phone calls.

Somewhere in that string in cocot-15.avi is probably the number of coins in the phone at the time.
Peculiar :thinking:
__________________
99 Integra GSR
06 TSX

duck squad member #00003
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:17 PM
  #18  
dE.fUsEd's Avatar
dE.fUsEd
I still like honda's. :-/
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 16,762
Likes: 0
From: Gilbert, AZ
Default

old school payphones...you could record the sound of the coins being deposited, then play that sound into a payphone and get free calls.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:28 PM
  #19  
benjamin's Avatar
benjamin
Thread Starter
Stuff and things.
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,972
Likes: 0
From: New York
Default

Originally Posted by dE.fUsEd
old school payphones...you could record the sound of the coins being deposited, then play that sound into a payphone and get free calls.
Or build a box to do it yourself. They called them "red boxes," which were strictly tone generators. Not to be confused with "blue boxes," which were built by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak waaaay back in the day. Blue boxes could do a lot more, as I understand it, than just get free calls.

Modern pay phones mute the mouthpiece until the call is connected. No more teh redb0xoring, with some exceptions.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:39 PM
  #20  
dE.fUsEd's Avatar
dE.fUsEd
I still like honda's. :-/
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 16,762
Likes: 0
From: Gilbert, AZ
Default

green box. all you would have needed.

Originally Posted by the Jolly Roger
Green Box Plans

Paying the initial rate in order to use a red box (on certain
fortresses) left a sour taste in many red boxers mouths, thus the
green box was invented. The green box generates useful tones such as
COIN COLLECT, COIN RETURN, AND RINGBACK. These are the tones that
ACTS or the TSPS operator would send to the CO when appropriate.
Unfortunately, the green box cannot be used at the fortress station but
must be used by the CALLED party.

Here are the tones:
COIN COLLECT 700+1100hz
COIN RETURN 1100+1700hz
RINGBACK 700+1700hz

Before the called party sends any of these tones, an operator realease
signal should be sent to alert the MF detectors at the CO.
This can be done by sending 900hz + 1500hz or a single 2600 wink (90 ms.)
Also do not forget that the initial rate is collected shortly before the
3 minute period is up. Incidentally, once the above MF
tones for collecting and returning coins reach the CO, they are
converted into an appropriate DC pulse (-130 volts for return and
+130 for collect). This pulse is then sent down the tip to the
fortress. This causes the coin relay to either return or collect the coins.
The alledged "T-network" takes advantage of this information.
When a pulse for coin collect (+130 VDC) is sent down the line,
it must be grounded somewhere. This is usually the yellow or black wire.
Thus, if the wires are exposed, these wires can be cut to prevent
the pulse from being grounded. When the three minute initial
period is almost up, make sure that the black and yellow wires are
severed, then hang up, wait about 15 seconds in case of a second
pulse, reconnect the wires, pick up the phone, and if all goes well,
it should be "JACKPOT" time.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:15 PM.