You just agreed with me....



did you know that?



While we are warring with al'queda as the main threat, the war on terror covers a much broader scope than just that group.

 

Yeah I know I agreed with you...to a point. I am not an immovable object and I do concede to things.

You are right we are at a war on terrorism and this is exactly the point I am trying to make here.

Iraq had what is right now known as limited dealings with Al-Qaeda yet Pakistan has harbored and financially helped them and the evidence is right there staring in our faces.

So in the light of this news what happens? Do we attack Pakistan for their actions? No instead we make them non NATO allies which puts them in a strongly favored position.

Are you seeing the hypocrisy of this yet? and how can you possibly justify this kind of thing happening. If the wire got it 3 hours ago then that means the information was in the governments hands long before that announcement was made and they had time to react and pull the favored nation status from Pakistan.

 

I post one more quote and article regarding this then I gotta get to packing for my trip.

President Bush on Thursday disputed the Sept. 11 commission's finding that there was no "collaborative relationship" between Saddam Hussein and the al Qaeda terrorist network responsible for the attacks.



"There was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda," Bush insisted following a meeting with his Cabinet at the White House.

"This administration never said that the 9-11 attacks were orchestrated between Saddam and al Qaeda," he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun17.html

 

That is right. Where did he ever say that Iraq was involved in 9-11. All that was said is that they support terrorism and were harboring Al Queda members when we attacked Afghanistan.

 

You missed my previous post completely.

 

I'm gonna say, that as CinC, the pres knows a good bit more, and is privvy to more information that you or I could conceive, via FBI, CIA, NSA, State Dept (of course half of those 'don't exist' )

As far as Pakistan, you have to understand the way we do things. Everything is not always black and white. We play in the grey mud a lot. If something is strategically more important, we will white wash it and use it to our advantage. IE: Pakistan. It was stategially more important to use them as an allie, even if we had to muscle them a bit, in order to gain important grounds, air strips, intel, etc.

We actually go over stuff like this in some of my military classes

 

But how does that get justified to the public when now it is coming out that they harbored the very enemy that attacked the US?

Not going to be an easy sell at all and right now his credibility as wel as most of his cabinet is shot in the foot by their own guns.

I can just see Colin Powell standing in the background looking like ~> :chuckles:

 

ever since 9/11 pakistan has been willing to cooperate, whereas iraq has not. thats why pakistan is the ally. i believe pakistan is a shady country and the "president" needs to be assisinated, but they are assisting us rather than continuing to harbor terrorists. i admit it sounds hypocritical that we ally with pakistan and attack iraq, but thats not how it is. the issue here is just iraq, not pakistan. thats how i understand it atleast.

edit: btw, its old old news that pakistan harbored the taliban.

 

While I understand what you are saying the general public most likely will not be seeing it that way at all.

Iraq had every right to refuse entry to the US troops into their borders and the US instead of dealing with it and working around it declared a war on the country...merely on suspicion and no evidence whatsoever. So now they move Pakistan into a most favored nation position after it has already shown itself to only ally itself with whoever is paying the bills....so in a year or two are they going to ally with N Korea if the price is right?

You see my point here at all?

 

We're technically still warring with N.Korea

We keep some 55k troops on the border My buddy's over there now.

Although they're rotating a lot of those guys into Iraq, including my buddy.

he's a Chem/bio weapons guy... goes into the field before others, and checks and makes sure the area is clear...

He gets an M4, and a pat on the back.