Camera guys, need some help
Originally Posted by WiLL
most of those pics uses the rule of thirds...:thinking:
well my only reply is that you really seem to want to apply the rules of third to everything thus you are finding them when they aren't there.
also remember the blackhawk museum night pic, I didn't like how you cropped it to "fit" the rules. know what I mean.
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Originally Posted by WiLL
...I really wanna get out and shoot people.
Originally Posted by DakarM
the part I quoted.
I never tell anyone that is starting to learn photography what I quoted.
it's photography by recipe and I for one dislike it.
I never tell anyone that is starting to learn photography what I quoted.
it's photography by recipe and I for one dislike it.
Originally Posted by DakarM
honestly i'm not even talking about what looks good. i'm just talking about good pictures.
plenty of examples in this thread: https://www.honda-acura.net/forums/s...d.php?t=122351
plenty of examples in this thread: https://www.honda-acura.net/forums/s...d.php?t=122351
Originally Posted by Nightshade
I am going to have to agree that the best rule is to break traditional rules.
The only real rules a photographer should ever have to go by is aperature settings and shutter time lapse settings because these are tried and true methods...not rules but methods.
Use various settings and see what each of them does then try them with each other overlapping them etc. practice with different angles, and frame fill techniques and eventually you will find your own style.
Art is rarely about following any rules
The only real rules a photographer should ever have to go by is aperature settings and shutter time lapse settings because these are tried and true methods...not rules but methods.
Use various settings and see what each of them does then try them with each other overlapping them etc. practice with different angles, and frame fill techniques and eventually you will find your own style.
Art is rarely about following any rules

Knowing them before you break them will help more than just breaking them one could say
The best way would be to get ahold of a light measure device. It is like a table of proper settings, and set your camera to those. Or just shoot alot of images until you start getting the proper settings. After the past few nights of shooting I am gonna buy a light meter, so I can save myself the time.
The rule of thirds does generally produce a more interesting picture. Obviously it's not absolute nor should it be adhered to religiously, but it is a good guideline.
Anyway, to adress the original topic rather than indulge in a debate of photographic theory with a bunch of amateurs, I now digress (or perhaps regress). :fawk:
One other setting you should take into account for good night shots is the ISO, or light sensitivity of the camera's image sensor. Go into the menu and see what it's set at. On automatic, the camera will tend to use a more sensitive setting in low light which produces image noise that you don't want. Since in low light you're going to be using long exposures no matter what, you want to set it to the lowest (i.e. least sensitive) ISO setting which will reduce the amount of noise the camera puts into the picture. This is especially important because noise due to ISO setting is most noticeable in low light situations and pictures with lots of dark areas in them.
Anyway, my elitist/purist/snob recommendation is that you can only learn so much with a point-n-shoot digital camera. You'll be way better off learning how to take pictures in black and white with an old school fully manual 35 mm SLR. Back in the day manual features that were controlled by actual mechanisms were the norm and automatic stuff was considered a luxury feature. Now adding a manual function to a fully automated software-controlled gizmo is a luxury feature.
Anyway, to adress the original topic rather than indulge in a debate of photographic theory with a bunch of amateurs, I now digress (or perhaps regress). :fawk:
One other setting you should take into account for good night shots is the ISO, or light sensitivity of the camera's image sensor. Go into the menu and see what it's set at. On automatic, the camera will tend to use a more sensitive setting in low light which produces image noise that you don't want. Since in low light you're going to be using long exposures no matter what, you want to set it to the lowest (i.e. least sensitive) ISO setting which will reduce the amount of noise the camera puts into the picture. This is especially important because noise due to ISO setting is most noticeable in low light situations and pictures with lots of dark areas in them.
Anyway, my elitist/purist/snob recommendation is that you can only learn so much with a point-n-shoot digital camera. You'll be way better off learning how to take pictures in black and white with an old school fully manual 35 mm SLR. Back in the day manual features that were controlled by actual mechanisms were the norm and automatic stuff was considered a luxury feature. Now adding a manual function to a fully automated software-controlled gizmo is a luxury feature.
Originally Posted by MrFatbooty
Back in the day manual features that were controlled by actual mechanisms were the norm and automatic stuff was considered a luxury feature. Now adding a manual function to a fully automated software-controlled gizmo is a luxury feature.
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