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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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for a daily-driven, occasionally auto-x'd car, who has what and why?
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:02 AM
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Springs.

Daily Driven. Cheap, perfect drop, no negative handling effects.
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:09 AM
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Coilovers, adjustability, daily driven, can raise up in winter time, Why = Kuz I got it for low price, Tokico Full Coilovers. Handle perfectly. Even drops, I've seen many springs where there are more than .5" differences.
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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in my case:

Koni Yellows w/ the best springs vs. TEIN SS Coilovers

The TEIN SS coilovers are good, but they will never handle better than a good Koni Yellow and spring setup. If you go to a large Auto-X, you will find a lot of guys using Koni Yellows on their cars. If you really want coilovers, then go for TEIN FLEX coilovers, since they are double adjustable...
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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i used a hacksaw to lower mine
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by sinthetiq
i used a hacksaw to lower mine

My stepbrother did that to his old 4th gen accord :rofl:
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by LX4CYL
in my case:

Koni Yellows w/ the best springs vs. TEIN SS Coilovers

The TEIN SS coilovers are good, but they will never handle better than a good Koni Yellow and spring setup. If you go to a large Auto-X, you will find a lot of guys using Koni Yellows on their cars. If you really want coilovers, then go for TEIN FLEX coilovers, since they are double adjustable...
Correction, if you really want coilovers, you'll go with something like a Zeal Super Function or a JIC FLTA2-RS coilover setup...

But I think I'm gonna go with a Zeal B6 or a JIC FlTA2 in the end...
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Epoch
Correction, if you really want coilovers, you'll go with something like a Zeal Super Function or a JIC FLTA2-RS coilover setup...

But I think I'm gonna go with a Zeal B6 or a JIC FlTA2 in the end...
do those cost over $1000?

They probably are very good, but very expensive IMO. In my case, the best thing under $1k is the Koni Yellow+good spring setup...
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by LX4CYL
do those cost over $1000?

They probably are very good, but very expensive IMO. In my case, the best thing under $1k is the Koni Yellow+good spring setup...
Mwuahahaha... both those (The JIC FLTA2-RS an the Zeal Super Function) cost over 2K for a Honda application.


But that's very true... Koni Yellows and a nice spring setup are VERY good for that price... but you Auto-Xers use very skurry spring rates in your rears :nervous:

But you can get a some of the cheaper setups for around 1400 shipped if you shop around...


Oh, and the Tein FLEX system sucks IMO... check out the rear spring rate that comes with them... worthless...
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by Epoch


Oh, and the Tein FLEX system sucks IMO... check out the rear spring rate that comes with them... worthless...
Those spring rates are setup for the jdm style of suspension. The japanese tend to like large spring rates in the front and lower in the back. It is also very popular to use large rear bars in the rear which would help the low spring rate.

This also helps in the weight load transfer while braking at high speeds on road courses since tegs/civs are front heavy.

We, the US, tend to like stiffer rear rates because it promotes oversteer which would counteract understeer. This is very useful for low speed corners such as those found on auto x courses.
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