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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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Originally posted by brtecson
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his complete disregard for foreign policy. As far as foreign affairs go, Clinton was horrible.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 07:21 PM
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ahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahhhahahah

that just completely made my day
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by RB
his complete disregard for foreign policy. As far as foreign affairs go, Clinton was horrible.
ok, I couldn't resist. Sue me.

You want to discuss foreign policy? I dont think you want to go there with Bush's record. Asside from violating the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions ... we have our beloved Patriot Act. Thats ok though - I didn't care for my right to privacy and the Bill of Rights.

Perhaps I can get a job for the SS-like Homeland Security? Oh. Wait. How many jobs have Americans lost during his "presidency" ? I guess I better enlist because that seems the only career available in Bush's Amerika.

Now we have to pay $87 billion dollars for a war we shouldn't have ever had? George W's grandfather Prescott Bush was among the chief American fundraisers for the Nazi Party in the 1930s and '40s. In return he was rewarded with plenty of financial opportunities from the Nazis helping to create the fortune and legacy that his son George inherited. How about using that to fund his unjust war?

Lets not forget how he cut 50% of the funding for research into renewable energy sources. Perhaps this is because half of his cabinet are/were oil tycoons? How else do they stay rich? Lets get Iraq!

Now, I'm probably going go catch heat from the bandwagon patriots with their American flags on their SUV's that have been proudly loving America since 9/11/01. Get a clue. You guys can hate Clinton all you want. I didn't care for him much either, but whats worse? Screwing an intern, or screwing the country?
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by sxecrow
ok, I couldn't resist. Sue me.

You want to discuss foreign policy? I dont think you want to go there with Bush's record. Asside from violating the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions ... we have our beloved Patriot Act. Thats ok though - I didn't care for my right to privacy and the Bill of Rights.

Perhaps I can get a job for the SS-like Homeland Security? Oh. Wait. How many jobs have Americans lost during his "presidency" ? I guess I better enlist because that seems the only career available in Bush's Amerika.

Now we have to pay $87 billion dollars for a war we shouldn't have ever had? George W's grandfather Prescott Bush was among the chief American fundraisers for the Nazi Party in the 1930s and '40s. In return he was rewarded with plenty of financial opportunities from the Nazis helping to create the fortune and legacy that his son George inherited. How about using that to fund his unjust war?

Lets not forget how he cut 50% of the funding for research into renewable energy sources. Perhaps this is because half of his cabinet are/were oil tycoons? How else do they stay rich? Lets get Iraq!

Now, I'm probably going go catch heat from the bandwagon patriots with their American flags on their SUV's that have been proudly loving America since 9/11/01. Get a clue. You guys can hate Clinton all you want. I didn't care for him much either, but whats worse? Screwing an intern, or screwing the country?

I never said Bush had a good foreign policy, and you can't blame the loss of american jobs on bush. We know that economic cycles go up and down, and after the huge boost in the economy in the late 90's and early 00's, it was bound to drop. Placing Bush as the sole scapegoat for all the bullshit thats happened in the last year is just an easy way out. Its too hard for most people to grasp that things happen in cycles, and right now things are in a recession. Shit happens. Blaming him for people not having jobs is just a cop out. Bush was put between a rock and a hard place with the Iraq situation. Little do people know what complete chaos Iraq was, and how its citizens were being treated. Thats one of the reasons we got rid of Sadam. But no, people bring up this no war for oil stuff and just make themselves look completely uneducated.

I don't particularly like bush myself, but all the flack this guy has gotten is so incredibly out of hand.


Most people that hate Bush dont know explain why, and if you ask them why they hate bush, they say "Well our economy sucks so its his fault", or "He attacked Iraq and stuff!". Completely idiotic.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by sxecrow
ok, I couldn't resist. Sue me.
Now, I'm probably going go catch heat from the bandwagon patriots with their American flags on their SUV's that have been proudly loving America since 9/11/01. Get a clue.
there are other reasons than the current leader of this country to love it. yes 9/11 stirred up America's partiotism, but i dont see why thats a bad thing. i love america, i love what it stands for, and the freedom that it gives us, but i dont neccessarily support everything thats going on with it
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by RB
I never said Bush had a good foreign policy, and you can't blame the loss of american jobs on bush. We know that economic cycles go up and down, and after the huge boost in the economy in the late 90's and early 00's, it was bound to drop.
This is from Democrats.org:

"In just one year, President Bush and congressional Republicans have managed to undo eight years of hard work and fiscal discipline. Bush's policies have already wiped out our hard gained surpluses, returned the nation to deficit spending, put Social Security in danger and slowed down efforts to pay down the national debt. One year into the Bush Administration, more than one million jobs were lost, the unemployment rate increased by 1.8 percent and about 2.6 million more people became unemployed. Now that the country is in a recession, President Bush and Republicans have proposed an economic plan that does little to stimulate the economy and consists mostly of giving profitable corporations and wealthy individuals $100 billion in tax cuts."

Oh come on, are you saying that it's normal for that kind of a drop in 1 year?!



Originally posted by RB
Bush was put between a rock and a hard place with the Iraq situation. Little do people know what complete chaos Iraq was, and how its citizens were being treated. Thats one of the reasons we got rid of Sadam. But no, people bring up this no war for oil stuff and just make themselves look completely uneducated.
Bush is as dumb as a rock. Aside from his idiotic speechs that make no sense - I recommend a google search on "bushisms", the Iraq situation is a disaster. The number of United States soldiers who have died in Iraq since May 1, when President Bush declared the end of major combat there, has surpassed the number of American deaths in the first stage of the war, which began on March 19. We're the invader and they're fighting to get rid of us. Iraq is much worse than it was under Saddam. We might not like Saddam because he was an asshole, but we're not the world police. We had no reasons to get rid of Saddam other than the fact Bush needed a way out for not finding Osama Bin Laden. Who else than the person who "tried to kill his dad", as he put it? It's sad that Iraq citizens were mistreated, but now American citizens are getting the shaft while he declares war on the rest of the world in the name of Jesus, Oil, and the good ol' USA. Besides, every thing with the middle east is about oil. Since when has the US government given 2 shits about anyone that hasnt benefitted them?

Originally posted by thaveen
there are other reasons than the current leader of this country to love it. yes 9/11 stirred up America's partiotism, but i dont see why thats a bad thing. i love america, i love what it stands for, and the freedom that it gives us, but i dont neccessarily support everything thats going on with it
As do I. But what I do hate are the people that try and stop you from disagreeing with America. You can't disagree or hate with Bush without being called Godless Unamerican or something. Thats crap. True patriots use their Constitutional rights for speech and assembly for the purpose which they were created - to make a difference.

I'm going to bed, gnight guys.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by sxecrow


This is from Democrats.org:


haha, could you find a more biased source?
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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Bush got my support
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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Keep in mind what is happening now is the result of Bill Clinton. :fawk:
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