widest tire i can fit on my car and rim?
Originally posted by lil_1_2002
i'm totally lost by what you said dave heheh. i'm currently running 215/45/17, what did you say about braeking? i didnt understand a word heheh.
i'm totally lost by what you said dave heheh. i'm currently running 215/45/17, what did you say about braeking? i didnt understand a word heheh.
No worries...

Tramlining refers to a car's tendency to follow the contours/ cracks/ variations of the road surface, which is felt through the steering wheel as a tug left or right. This problem is particularly severe on cars with tires that are actually too wide...because, especially under braking, the shape of contact patch in front is wider than it is long.
As shown in this [shitty] diagram, the grey oval shows an excessively wide contact patch.
The red arrows illustrate the forces placed upon the tire by elevated sections of road. As the tire contact patch gets wider, without getting sufficiently long, the leverage these forces have upon the tire is enough to affect the steering of the car.
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The rest of my earlier post was me debating internally whether or not a 225/40R17 tire would even fit or not. The answer is: I don't think so....
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tramming has more to do with tread pattern than size.
i used to get traming with 205/50/15 good year GA as well as 225/45/17 and 245/40/17 dunlops.
the current 235/45/17 and 255/40/17 toyo t1-s does not tramline at all.
also it's not just the forces on the tires but the tendency of the tire to follow the groove/lines on the road surface.
i used to get traming with 205/50/15 good year GA as well as 225/45/17 and 245/40/17 dunlops.
the current 235/45/17 and 255/40/17 toyo t1-s does not tramline at all.
also it's not just the forces on the tires but the tendency of the tire to follow the groove/lines on the road surface.
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Originally Posted by WiLL
...I really wanna get out and shoot people.
Originally posted by DakarM
tramming has more to do with tread pattern than size.
i used to get traming with 205/50/15 good year GA as well as 225/45/17 and 245/40/17 dunlops.
the current 235/45/17 and 255/40/17 toyo t1-s does not tramline at all.
also it's not just the forces on the tires but the tendency of the tire to follow the groove/lines on the road surface.
tramming has more to do with tread pattern than size.
i used to get traming with 205/50/15 good year GA as well as 225/45/17 and 245/40/17 dunlops.
the current 235/45/17 and 255/40/17 toyo t1-s does not tramline at all.
also it's not just the forces on the tires but the tendency of the tire to follow the groove/lines on the road surface.
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Originally posted by NorCal DC4
I concede that I oversimplified things. And you're right, the tread design of modern tires has advanced by leaps & bounds in the last 5 years alone. Those are impressive results from the T1-S tires...:shocked:
I concede that I oversimplified things. And you're right, the tread design of modern tires has advanced by leaps & bounds in the last 5 years alone. Those are impressive results from the T1-S tires...:shocked:
i was surprised as well

the michelin pilot sports are terrible. 225/40/18 255/35/18, tramlines like no other.
the new PS2 are supposed to be much much better
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Originally Posted by WiLL
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Originally posted by DakarM
i was surprised as well
the michelin pilot sports are terrible. 225/40/18 255/35/18, tramlines like no other.
the new PS2 are supposed to be much much better
i was surprised as well

the michelin pilot sports are terrible. 225/40/18 255/35/18, tramlines like no other.
the new PS2 are supposed to be much much better
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