I am so sorry Jessica Lynch
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From: Scranton, PA
Originally posted by CiviChik97
yea, im on a high horse. for what reason would i be?
i just find it total BS that u look down on her. all of u.
yea, im on a high horse. for what reason would i be?
i just find it total BS that u look down on her. all of u.
She did what she was trained to do and so did the people saving her. Maybe I'm saying it wrong. I like the way WiLL put it, I'm not blaming her. But the media. She didn't start the coverage, she didn't play it up. Yea, she went through a hard time. So did a lot of other people though. What makes her so special?
Yes, I feel for anyone that is out there fighting. I respect that. More than you may know.
I think what I'm trying to say is that her media coverage is what's blown out of proportion. Her story is only diffrent being that she's female. Other than that, there were hundreds of stories exactly like hers over there too. I feel for all of them, even the other females over there.
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From: York PA
Originally posted by WiLL
i dont think anyone is looking down on HER. its just the way the media is portraying the whole thing. now thats BS. but hey this is :usa: .
i dont think anyone is looking down on HER. its just the way the media is portraying the whole thing. now thats BS. but hey this is :usa: .
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Nope. I am not looking down on her, but I know you weren't talking about me :fawk:
Nope. I am not looking down on her, but I know you weren't talking about me :fawk:
AND SPOOD--i didnt read ur whole post...but i read up till the part where u mentioned that she is *WHITE*...in case u forgot, there was also an african american *woman* who was captured who ALSO got a lot of media attention. this has NOTHING to do with her race.
i do agree with you and everyone else that, maybe she shouldnt have gotten the title of war hero and such...but it still doesnt change the fact that people, like me, look up to her...and that she did DO something...she fought for your country. are you doing it? no. is Clickwir doing it? i dont see it. so, yes, she DID do something...she left this country to fight for it and she put her life on the line. THAT is SOMETHING to me.
and just to clarify...i believe this movie thats coming out on NBC "portrays the story of Jessica Lynch and the men who saved her"..at least thats what ive heard on the commercials.
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I think you're missing some of our points. We are NOT saying she doesn't deserve recognition. We are saying that the media is blowing this shiat out of whack.
In no ways are we looking down on her or discredit her for toughing it out as a POW.
In no ways are we looking down on her or discredit her for toughing it out as a POW.
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From: Lll
this was a little interesting if you guys havent read it...
Lynch says Pentagon used her for propaganda
By CORKY SIEMASZKO
New York Daily News
Jessica Lynch has angrily accused the Pentagon of using her for propaganda.
The 20-year-old private, portrayed as a female Rambo after she was captured by Iraqis during a blazing gun battle and then freed by American troops, told ABC there was no reason for her rescue from an Iraqi hospital to be filmed.
"They used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff," Lynch said in an interview with Diane Sawyer that airs Tuesday, Veterans Day.
"Yeah, it's wrong," Lynch said. "I don't know why they filmed it, or why they say the things" they said.
That footage of U.S. commandos wheeling a grimacing Lynch to a waiting chopper was among the most dramatic of the war - and helped cement her image as a female warrior.
But Lynch said the true heroes were the soldiers who saved her.
"They're the ones that came in to rescue me," she said. "I'm so thankful that they did what they did; they risked their lives. … They are my heroes."
She also disputed the Pentagon's early version of her capture by Iraqis, which suggested she had heroically defended herself - going down only after firing all her ammo.
Lynch says her M-16 jammed and she never got off a shot.
"My weapon did jam and I did not shoot, not a round, nothing," she said simply.
There was no immediate response from the Pentagon, which awarded Lynch a Purple Heart for her injuries.
ABC released excerpts of Lynch's first television interview yesterday after the Daily News obtained a copy of Lynch's authorized biography and revealed its most shocking secret - that she was raped by her Iraqi captors.
She has no memory of the rape. The book says there was a three-hour gap after her capture, a blank in her mind, during which she was assaulted.
"Even just the thinking about that, that's too painful," she told Sawyer.
Lynch said she was awakened from her stupor by searing pain.
"I seriously thought I was going to be paralyzed for the rest of my life," she told ABC.
The young soldier said at first she did not trust her Iraqi doctors - and tried to stifle her screams.
Trapped in her bed, Lynch said, she tried to tame her terror by thinking about her family, her fiance, Sgt. Ruben Contreras, and her G.I. buddy Lori Piestewa.
After she was rescued, she learned Piestewa was dead.
In her book, "I Am a Soldier, Too," author Rick Bragg says the scars on Lynch's body and medical records indicate she was anally raped, and he tells the reader to "fill in the blanks of what Jessi lived through on the morning of March 23, 2003."
Lynch says her unit was sent into battle armed only with M-16s - no grenades or anti-tank weapons - and in lumbering trucks that could not keep up with the convoy barreling toward Baghdad.
When the trucks in her unit tried to catch up, radio contact with the main convoy was lost - and so were they.
She was filled with foreboding.
"Jessi's fear of being left behind was beginning to come true," Bragg wrote.
Lynch says Pentagon used her for propaganda
By CORKY SIEMASZKO
New York Daily News
Jessica Lynch has angrily accused the Pentagon of using her for propaganda.
The 20-year-old private, portrayed as a female Rambo after she was captured by Iraqis during a blazing gun battle and then freed by American troops, told ABC there was no reason for her rescue from an Iraqi hospital to be filmed.
"They used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff," Lynch said in an interview with Diane Sawyer that airs Tuesday, Veterans Day.
"Yeah, it's wrong," Lynch said. "I don't know why they filmed it, or why they say the things" they said.
That footage of U.S. commandos wheeling a grimacing Lynch to a waiting chopper was among the most dramatic of the war - and helped cement her image as a female warrior.
But Lynch said the true heroes were the soldiers who saved her.
"They're the ones that came in to rescue me," she said. "I'm so thankful that they did what they did; they risked their lives. … They are my heroes."
She also disputed the Pentagon's early version of her capture by Iraqis, which suggested she had heroically defended herself - going down only after firing all her ammo.
Lynch says her M-16 jammed and she never got off a shot.
"My weapon did jam and I did not shoot, not a round, nothing," she said simply.
There was no immediate response from the Pentagon, which awarded Lynch a Purple Heart for her injuries.
ABC released excerpts of Lynch's first television interview yesterday after the Daily News obtained a copy of Lynch's authorized biography and revealed its most shocking secret - that she was raped by her Iraqi captors.
She has no memory of the rape. The book says there was a three-hour gap after her capture, a blank in her mind, during which she was assaulted.
"Even just the thinking about that, that's too painful," she told Sawyer.
Lynch said she was awakened from her stupor by searing pain.
"I seriously thought I was going to be paralyzed for the rest of my life," she told ABC.
The young soldier said at first she did not trust her Iraqi doctors - and tried to stifle her screams.
Trapped in her bed, Lynch said, she tried to tame her terror by thinking about her family, her fiance, Sgt. Ruben Contreras, and her G.I. buddy Lori Piestewa.
After she was rescued, she learned Piestewa was dead.
In her book, "I Am a Soldier, Too," author Rick Bragg says the scars on Lynch's body and medical records indicate she was anally raped, and he tells the reader to "fill in the blanks of what Jessi lived through on the morning of March 23, 2003."
Lynch says her unit was sent into battle armed only with M-16s - no grenades or anti-tank weapons - and in lumbering trucks that could not keep up with the convoy barreling toward Baghdad.
When the trucks in her unit tried to catch up, radio contact with the main convoy was lost - and so were they.
She was filled with foreboding.
"Jessi's fear of being left behind was beginning to come true," Bragg wrote.
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From: Portland, OR
Originally posted by WiLL
this was a little interesting if you guys havent read it...
Lynch says Pentagon used her for propaganda
By CORKY SIEMASZKO
New York Daily News
Jessica Lynch has angrily accused the Pentagon of using her for propaganda.
The 20-year-old private, portrayed as a female Rambo after she was captured by Iraqis during a blazing gun battle and then freed by American troops, told ABC there was no reason for her rescue from an Iraqi hospital to be filmed.
"They used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff," Lynch said in an interview with Diane Sawyer that airs Tuesday, Veterans Day.
"Yeah, it's wrong," Lynch said. "I don't know why they filmed it, or why they say the things" they said.
That footage of U.S. commandos wheeling a grimacing Lynch to a waiting chopper was among the most dramatic of the war - and helped cement her image as a female warrior.
But Lynch said the true heroes were the soldiers who saved her.
"They're the ones that came in to rescue me," she said. "I'm so thankful that they did what they did; they risked their lives. … They are my heroes."
She also disputed the Pentagon's early version of her capture by Iraqis, which suggested she had heroically defended herself - going down only after firing all her ammo.
Lynch says her M-16 jammed and she never got off a shot.
"My weapon did jam and I did not shoot, not a round, nothing," she said simply.
There was no immediate response from the Pentagon, which awarded Lynch a Purple Heart for her injuries.
ABC released excerpts of Lynch's first television interview yesterday after the Daily News obtained a copy of Lynch's authorized biography and revealed its most shocking secret - that she was raped by her Iraqi captors.
She has no memory of the rape. The book says there was a three-hour gap after her capture, a blank in her mind, during which she was assaulted.
"Even just the thinking about that, that's too painful," she told Sawyer.
Lynch said she was awakened from her stupor by searing pain.
"I seriously thought I was going to be paralyzed for the rest of my life," she told ABC.
The young soldier said at first she did not trust her Iraqi doctors - and tried to stifle her screams.
Trapped in her bed, Lynch said, she tried to tame her terror by thinking about her family, her fiance, Sgt. Ruben Contreras, and her G.I. buddy Lori Piestewa.
After she was rescued, she learned Piestewa was dead.
In her book, "I Am a Soldier, Too," author Rick Bragg says the scars on Lynch's body and medical records indicate she was anally raped, and he tells the reader to "fill in the blanks of what Jessi lived through on the morning of March 23, 2003."
Lynch says her unit was sent into battle armed only with M-16s - no grenades or anti-tank weapons - and in lumbering trucks that could not keep up with the convoy barreling toward Baghdad.
When the trucks in her unit tried to catch up, radio contact with the main convoy was lost - and so were they.
She was filled with foreboding.
"Jessi's fear of being left behind was beginning to come true," Bragg wrote.
this was a little interesting if you guys havent read it...
Lynch says Pentagon used her for propaganda
By CORKY SIEMASZKO
New York Daily News
Jessica Lynch has angrily accused the Pentagon of using her for propaganda.
The 20-year-old private, portrayed as a female Rambo after she was captured by Iraqis during a blazing gun battle and then freed by American troops, told ABC there was no reason for her rescue from an Iraqi hospital to be filmed.
"They used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff," Lynch said in an interview with Diane Sawyer that airs Tuesday, Veterans Day.
"Yeah, it's wrong," Lynch said. "I don't know why they filmed it, or why they say the things" they said.
That footage of U.S. commandos wheeling a grimacing Lynch to a waiting chopper was among the most dramatic of the war - and helped cement her image as a female warrior.
But Lynch said the true heroes were the soldiers who saved her.
"They're the ones that came in to rescue me," she said. "I'm so thankful that they did what they did; they risked their lives. … They are my heroes."
She also disputed the Pentagon's early version of her capture by Iraqis, which suggested she had heroically defended herself - going down only after firing all her ammo.
Lynch says her M-16 jammed and she never got off a shot.
"My weapon did jam and I did not shoot, not a round, nothing," she said simply.
There was no immediate response from the Pentagon, which awarded Lynch a Purple Heart for her injuries.
ABC released excerpts of Lynch's first television interview yesterday after the Daily News obtained a copy of Lynch's authorized biography and revealed its most shocking secret - that she was raped by her Iraqi captors.
She has no memory of the rape. The book says there was a three-hour gap after her capture, a blank in her mind, during which she was assaulted.
"Even just the thinking about that, that's too painful," she told Sawyer.
Lynch said she was awakened from her stupor by searing pain.
"I seriously thought I was going to be paralyzed for the rest of my life," she told ABC.
The young soldier said at first she did not trust her Iraqi doctors - and tried to stifle her screams.
Trapped in her bed, Lynch said, she tried to tame her terror by thinking about her family, her fiance, Sgt. Ruben Contreras, and her G.I. buddy Lori Piestewa.
After she was rescued, she learned Piestewa was dead.
In her book, "I Am a Soldier, Too," author Rick Bragg says the scars on Lynch's body and medical records indicate she was anally raped, and he tells the reader to "fill in the blanks of what Jessi lived through on the morning of March 23, 2003."
Lynch says her unit was sent into battle armed only with M-16s - no grenades or anti-tank weapons - and in lumbering trucks that could not keep up with the convoy barreling toward Baghdad.
When the trucks in her unit tried to catch up, radio contact with the main convoy was lost - and so were they.
She was filled with foreboding.
"Jessi's fear of being left behind was beginning to come true," Bragg wrote.
holy crap that makes me so mad...she's the one who had to sign all the contracts and deals to have a book deal, movie deal and all this other CRAP. Seriously she's full of shit now.
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From: York PA
Originally posted by jlammy
I think you're missing some of our points. We are NOT saying she doesn't deserve recognition. We are saying that the media is blowing this shiat out of whack.
In no ways are we looking down on her or discredit her for toughing it out as a POW.
I think you're missing some of our points. We are NOT saying she doesn't deserve recognition. We are saying that the media is blowing this shiat out of whack.
In no ways are we looking down on her or discredit her for toughing it out as a POW.
my look on it is this though...like i said before...if that was my sister in Jessica's shoes....let me tell u, i would make sure of it that her name was cemented in America's minds for years to come. because i would be proud. as her family is. and yes, OF COURSE, every name of the men who saved her would be also.
i do agree with most of you adn the points youre trying to make, and i respect that, but i dont like the attitudes that most of your comments are sending out. .
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From: Lll
Originally posted by CiviChik97
i'm getting your points. im just not agreeing completely. or maybe im not reading it right, or its being worded wrong.
my look on it is this though...like i said before...if that was my sister in Jessica's shoes....let me tell u, i would make sure of it that her name was cemented in America's minds for years to come. because i would be proud. as her family is. and yes, OF COURSE, every name of the men who saved her would be also.
i do agree with most of you adn the points youre trying to make, and i respect that, but i dont like the attitudes that most of your comments are sending out. .
i'm getting your points. im just not agreeing completely. or maybe im not reading it right, or its being worded wrong.
my look on it is this though...like i said before...if that was my sister in Jessica's shoes....let me tell u, i would make sure of it that her name was cemented in America's minds for years to come. because i would be proud. as her family is. and yes, OF COURSE, every name of the men who saved her would be also.
i do agree with most of you adn the points youre trying to make, and i respect that, but i dont like the attitudes that most of your comments are sending out. .
ok. what if your sister was in another soldiers shoes. the soldier that didnt get the air time on TV, the one that did what he was suppose to do but got no public recognition from it?
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From: York PA
Originally posted by WiLL
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ok. what if your sister was in another soldiers shoes. the soldier that didnt get the air time on TV, the one that did what he was suppose to do but got no public recognition from it?
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ok. what if your sister was in another soldiers shoes. the soldier that didnt get the air time on TV, the one that did what he was suppose to do but got no public recognition from it?