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I'm kinda iffy on why the Oracle wasnt the same oracle from the first two movies...i know it has something to do with "change" but dont know the specifics....do you guys know?
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Originally posted by Nightshade
WTF are you talking about??
Maybe I fell asleep in that part but I really doubt it.
They flew out...someone didn't pay attention
WTF are you talking about??

Maybe I fell asleep in that part but I really doubt it.
They flew out...someone didn't pay attention
:thumbup:
on another note...i was thinking all night trying to piece it together. When Neo first met Seraph in the Matrix before meeting with the Oracle....he saw that his code was all yellow/gold like the machines he saw when he was outside the matrix in the Machine City. So is Seraph one of the machines?
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Originally posted by Spec R
I'm kinda iffy on why the Oracle wasnt the same oracle from the first two movies...i know it has something to do with "change" but dont know the specifics....do you guys know?
I'm kinda iffy on why the Oracle wasnt the same oracle from the first two movies...i know it has something to do with "change" but dont know the specifics....do you guys know?
i vaguely caught that she changed her shell b/c of something. i didnt catch all of it.
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Originally posted by asiandoood
on another note...i was thinking all night trying to piece it together. When Neo first met Seraph in the Matrix before meeting with the Oracle....he saw that his code was all yellow/gold like the machines he saw when he was outside the matrix in the Machine City. So is Seraph one of the machines?
on another note...i was thinking all night trying to piece it together. When Neo first met Seraph in the Matrix before meeting with the Oracle....he saw that his code was all yellow/gold like the machines he saw when he was outside the matrix in the Machine City. So is Seraph one of the machines?
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Originally posted by Spec R
He's a program, just like the Oracle. but thats all i know. i dont wanna claim details I dont have proof of. I'm sure someone else knows the details. sorry doood.
He's a program, just like the Oracle. but thats all i know. i dont wanna claim details I dont have proof of. I'm sure someone else knows the details. sorry doood.
but if he's a program...then all the machines outside the matrix are programs?

i dont know if im all confused or not...but i thought there might be a connection as to why he saw "light" outside the matrix when he was at the Machine City that was similar to what Seraph looked like inside the matrix. same with how Bane looked outside the matrix.
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main reason why the oracle is a different person is cause the original actress that played the oracle passed away after her scripted parts of reloaded.
on another note on the thing i said earlier. WATCH IT AGAIN. you will know what im talking about. i am gonna watch it again tonight so i can better explain it to you. it was a guy and girl in their teens dressed in these grayish robe with stripes on them in some kind of control room. maybe they were the humans controlling the machines or something. but if you watch it again you will see it.
on another note on the thing i said earlier. WATCH IT AGAIN. you will know what im talking about. i am gonna watch it again tonight so i can better explain it to you. it was a guy and girl in their teens dressed in these grayish robe with stripes on them in some kind of control room. maybe they were the humans controlling the machines or something. but if you watch it again you will see it.
Originally posted by Nightshade
They flew out...someone didn't pay attention
They flew out...someone didn't pay attention
Originally posted by asiandoood
but if he's a program...then all the machines outside the matrix are programs?
i dont know if im all confused or not...but i thought there might be a connection as to why he saw "light" outside the matrix when he was at the Machine City that was similar to what Seraph looked like inside the matrix. same with how Bane looked outside the matrix.
but if he's a program...then all the machines outside the matrix are programs?

i dont know if im all confused or not...but i thought there might be a connection as to why he saw "light" outside the matrix when he was at the Machine City that was similar to what Seraph looked like inside the matrix. same with how Bane looked outside the matrix.
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Originally posted by asiandoood
on another note...i was thinking all night trying to piece it together. When Neo first met Seraph in the Matrix before meeting with the Oracle....he saw that his code was all yellow/gold like the machines he saw when he was outside the matrix in the Machine City. So is Seraph one of the machines?
on another note...i was thinking all night trying to piece it together. When Neo first met Seraph in the Matrix before meeting with the Oracle....he saw that his code was all yellow/gold like the machines he saw when he was outside the matrix in the Machine City. So is Seraph one of the machines?
If I remember correctly, he also saw gold when he was fighting with Agent Smith inside the ship...when they were both unplugged, and when Neo lost his eyes.
As for the movie as a whole, I was severely disappointed. Two of the best movies ever led up to this, the finale. I was expecting the badass end-all movie that we should have gotten, and it wasn't that great. I don't think it will be the last one, on account of the Oracle saying we'll see Neo again...whether it's a new version, or the old versions coming back, I don't know. Also, I think the little girl has something to do with the future, possibly the new Oracle? The Oracle will raise her, and she'll naturally follow the ways of the Oracle. I think the kid from Zion that ended up opening the gate will become one of the leaders of Zion in the next movie...there's just too many loose ends to not have another one...and hell, they know they're gonna make an assload of money again.
:dunno:
But the special effects were cool, the fight scene between Neo and Smith was badass, but I thought the movie would be better.
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Originally posted by dubster99
If I remember correctly, he also saw gold when he was fighting with Agent Smith inside the ship...when they were both unplugged, and when Neo lost his eyes.
As for the movie as a whole, I was severely disappointed. Two of the best movies ever led up to this, the finale. I was expecting the badass end-all movie that we should have gotten, and it wasn't that great. I don't think it will be the last one, on account of the Oracle saying we'll see Neo again...whether it's a new version, or the old versions coming back, I don't know. Also, I think the little girl has something to do with the future, possibly the new Oracle? The Oracle will raise her, and she'll naturally follow the ways of the Oracle. I think the kid from Zion that ended up opening the gate will become one of the leaders of Zion in the next movie...there's just too many loose ends to not have another one...and hell, they know they're gonna make an assload of money again.
:dunno:
But the special effects were cool, the fight scene between Neo and Smith was badass, but I thought the movie would be better.
If I remember correctly, he also saw gold when he was fighting with Agent Smith inside the ship...when they were both unplugged, and when Neo lost his eyes.
As for the movie as a whole, I was severely disappointed. Two of the best movies ever led up to this, the finale. I was expecting the badass end-all movie that we should have gotten, and it wasn't that great. I don't think it will be the last one, on account of the Oracle saying we'll see Neo again...whether it's a new version, or the old versions coming back, I don't know. Also, I think the little girl has something to do with the future, possibly the new Oracle? The Oracle will raise her, and she'll naturally follow the ways of the Oracle. I think the kid from Zion that ended up opening the gate will become one of the leaders of Zion in the next movie...there's just too many loose ends to not have another one...and hell, they know they're gonna make an assload of money again.
:dunno:
But the special effects were cool, the fight scene between Neo and Smith was badass, but I thought the movie would be better.
what i think she meant when neo will come back is that when the war rises again between man/machine....there will be another "chosen one" that will rise like "neo" has as well as like all his other predessesors.
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