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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by DakarM
at least use Champ cars instead of IRL cars.
Haha Champ cars are slower... here is proof...

http://www.racinglines.com/article/a...view/2982/1/1/
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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screw it compare the 1990s indy cars with the current F1 car :rick: that should even it out
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by DakarM
screw it compare the 1990s indy cars with the current F1 car :rick: that should even it out
That would be close...
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by axemansean
F1 and Indy cars are worlds apart... one is designed primarily for super speedways and the other lives on road courses. Most Indy drivers don't do too well because they aren't used to turning right. It took Jaques Villeneuve a while before he won a championship when he came over from Indy.
Hmm...4 wins, second in the championship after taking the battle down to the last race in his first season. Second season, 7 wins and the F1 title. He actually won the title the quickest out of all F1 drivers.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by axemansean
Haha Champ cars are slower... here is proof...

http://www.racinglines.com/article/a...view/2982/1/1/
CART has been trying to slow down the cars for years to cut development costs and the upward trend that the costs were going.

1999 and 2000 was probably the peak of current Champ Car performance as the engines were making at least 900hp and the tire war between Goodyear and Firestone were making really grippy tires. If the question of who's faster was asked in 1999, Champ Cars would've lapped Montreal faster than 1999 Grand Prix cars. 2002 was the last year in CART for the different engine companies before CART would be an all-Ford affair. Development slowed down after the 2001 season, and tire development wasn't at the pace when Goodyear was in the game. With only one tire supplier, tires became more consistent over the course of a whole stint.

In 2003, the Cosworth V8s have been updated to last two to three raceweekends before a rebuild. This has been accomplished by redesigns as well as lowered revs resulting in lower horsepower (700-750hp range). This resulted in about a 15mph top speed difference on the superspeedways between the CART frontrunners of 99-00 and of 03.
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 11:17 PM
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Marlboro livery on contemporary open wheel race cars.

1996 Mclaren-Mercedes MP4/11.


2001 Reynard-Honda 2K1










2002 Dallara-Chevy Indycar




2003 G-Force-Toyota Indycar




2003 Dallara-Toyota Indycar
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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 11:21 PM
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Fastest overall would boil down to this:

1. Champ Car 2.65L turbo V8 methanol
2. Indycar 3.5L V8
3. Grand Prix car 3.0L V10

That is just for the highest speeds that each car will reach in their respective series' fastest tracks.

A Grand Prix car will be faster than a Champ Car at most road courses if we compare 2003 to 2003.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by heywoodjablowme
look @ michael andretti who was arguably the best indy driver @ the time....when he went to f1 he sucked cause he didn't have the control he was use to :dunno:
uhh.. what the hell kind of logic is that? :slap: he sucked because it's that much more difficult.

just like alex zanardi; he did so-so in F1, when to cart, did great, went back to F1, sucked again.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:23 AM
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At least he got an NSX named after him.
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